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Will you ever support anything EA again?

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Will you ever support anything EA again?

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Goretzu
08.06.2012 , 01:27 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Elmillia View Post

Bioware has made stellar games. Dragon Age. Dragon Age 2. Mass Effect. Mass Effect 2 and 3, Star Wars The Old Republic. Knights of the... the list goes on and on... What do they have in common? They're all great games. Yes, they have some problems (SWTOR lacking addons for a start, ME3's original ending, etc) but that doesn't make them any less great.

I don't understand the hatred bioware and EA get. As I said, EA funded this game and Bioware's last few games. Without EA, there'd be no Star Wars: The Old Republic. Bioware'd simply not be able to fund it.

You are only as good as your last game.


(also Bioware != Bioware EA - the company that made KOTOR basically isn't the same one that made SWTOR anymore than Bethesda making SWTOR would have been)
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Elmillia
08.06.2012 , 01:30 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Lunablade View Post
Do you rly think that for companies to make a good MMO they need to have a budget of 200 million dollars because I dont , games can be good with less money invested into them.

Also if there wouldnt be EA to support this game maybe some other publisher would and maybe that would be better for the game.
Yes. SWTOR needed 200 million because it's a unique cookie. Unlike previous games, SWTOR is voiced by professional voice actors.

And if this was Activision or Atari publishing this game, you'd be hating on them instead of EA. It's the same pointless circle all over again.

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Goretzu
08.06.2012 , 01:33 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Elmillia View Post
Yes. SWTOR needed 200 million because it's a unique cookie. Unlike previous games, SWTOR is voiced by professional voice actors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=573UAJjrY6w
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Elmillia
08.06.2012 , 01:36 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
You are only as good as your last game.


(also Bioware != Bioware EA - the company that made KOTOR basically isn't the same one that made SWTOR anymore than Bethesda making SWTOR would have been)
Their last game to be released was Mass Effect 3 and I loved that game. I was disappointed in the original ending but the ending DLC moved me emotionally (That's a good thing).

Bioware = Bioware EA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioware#Games

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Elmillia
08.06.2012 , 01:38 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Please tell me you're not comparing a game released in '96 for DOS or Windows 95, to a game released in 2011/2012 for Windows 7... Please tell me...

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Vodamin
08.06.2012 , 01:40 AM | #46
Well I've never bought EA game before, but I bought SWTOR because it is MMO after all
For the rest of their games there are other ways ^_^
PvP is cancer.

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Goretzu
08.06.2012 , 01:42 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Elmillia View Post
Please tell me you're not comparing a game released in '96 for DOS or Windows 95, to a game released in 2011/2012 for Windows 7... Please tell me...
Just saying they paid proffessional actors to actually ACT (really badly ) in those days. 200M seems a lot just for voice acting.
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Lunablade
08.06.2012 , 01:42 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Elmillia View Post
Yes. SWTOR needed 200 million because it's a unique cookie. Unlike previous games, SWTOR is voiced by professional voice actors.

And if this was Activision or Atari publishing this game, you'd be hating on them instead of EA. It's the same pointless circle all over again.

I understand that SWTOR is " unique cookie " as you stated it but I dont think that game needed as much of VO as it has now just because that overall ammount of VO in the game will not be crucial to the matter will this game fail or succeed.
Would be much better in fact if they spended less on the VO work and more in some more important aspects for MMOS like gameplay features, world design and endgame activities.

And nobody would hate anyone if publisher havent pushed Bioware ( in this case EA ) to release game prematurely before game was finished and ready for release and without some features which are considered as standard for all MMOS released at this time ( dungeon finder , achievement system , dual specs etc ) and than after game was released on first sign of the crisis when subs started to drop layed off devs and openly stated how TOR is not on their list of priority games pushing game into FTP.

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Toweleeeie
08.06.2012 , 01:44 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Elmillia View Post
Please tell me you're not comparing a game released in '96 for DOS or Windows 95, to a game released in 2011/2012 for Windows 7... Please tell me...
Why not? You said professional voice actors... This is even better bc its live action cut scenes with full costumes. Pretty awesome for 96. Wonder how much that cost? Not 200 million...
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Prettysweet
08.06.2012 , 01:44 AM | #50
Why does everyone point a finger at EA for SWTOR issues, I'm not saying EA are not at fault.

EA bought out Bioware so the major shareholders at Bioware must have agreed the deal, if they had any reservations regarding how EA work then they should not have sold out to them. So Bioware must take equal blame as well.

As none of us work for either company (or at least not at board level), so nobody knows who did what regarding launch etc etc, but as EA are the parent company they take the blame. It could be Bioware's DEVs said to EA yep we will be ready for lauch date no worries. EA reply OK we'll market and get all production ready for that date , only for the DEVs to come back 2 weeks before launch and say hmmm guys we wont be ready we have quite a few bugs and will have to drop some content we wanted in launch!!!! now of course this is just maybe what happened, but who knows?

So yes I will still buy EA products which interest me, and to all the people who say no never again yet still play this game well that's just sad. If you hate EA that much at least have the balls to say never going to put any more money in the company. You would not buy a car and drive it, if you hated it or would you?
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