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How serious is the gear gap?

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How serious is the gear gap?

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Skolops
08.05.2012 , 01:43 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Leiralei View Post
Except when you're the only person on your team trying to prevent a cap. Eat plenty of stuns then and have to abandon smart play to get the objectives done. Unfortunately that will also give you a reputation as a terrible player because your numbers will be abysmal.
That's why I listed getting a better team - which, when pugging, is obviously not up to you.

The reality is that if you're in full augmented WH and you're the only one trying to play the objectives, you'll have exactly the same thing happening to you. I've said many times on these forums that the number one cause of people experiencing what they perceive as excess CC is being on a bad team, because it frequently puts them in positions to take on 5 or 6 people all alone, and then they are eating the damage and CC of all those people focused on them alone, when normally all of that CC needs to be spread out around to everyone else, too, and each individual player will find himself CCed far less often.

Heck, this is why I can't stand lowbie warzones a lot of the time, because even without a necessarily significant gear gap, it so happens that about 30% of the time I am the only player actually in the correct places trying to manage the objectives and so I just spend the whole game getting stunned, dying, and resing.
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08.05.2012 , 02:05 PM | #42
BM to WH is not a huge gap, recruit gear to the other sets is pretty sizable. I would guess that you're not playing against geared people. I got killed in a single GCD pretty often in recruit gear on my Sent. Pretty terrible experience.

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08.05.2012 , 02:08 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Racter View Post
BM to WH is not a huge gap, recruit gear to the other sets is pretty sizable. I would guess that you're not playing against geared people. I got killed in a single GCD pretty often in recruit gear on my Sent. Pretty terrible experience.
No, you didn't. Not from one person, anyways. There is absolutely no such thing as a 13 or 14k hit or anything even remotely close.
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08.05.2012 , 04:23 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Kingkabuki View Post
...I'm still waiting for a team that uses blue crafted gear...
why?If you want to prove / disprove that there is a skill difference among equally geared teams it's far easier to find a team in all purples that doesn't get a 2k rating although they try.

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Morrolan
08.05.2012 , 04:34 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Racter View Post
BM to WH is not a huge gap,
It may not look like a huge gap on paper but I certainly notice a significant gap in performance if I'm on a primarily BM geared team up against a primarily WH geared team.
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08.05.2012 , 04:35 PM | #46
Im running deception spec sin (mostly battlemaster gear) and the only melee who ever usually out DPS me is a WH geared marauder...

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vimm
08.05.2012 , 04:49 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Kingkabuki View Post
...ok, so how many arena teams in wow are 2000+ with blue crafted pvp gear?...link them all since there should be a whole bunch...
You said this game takes no skill and are using another game to prove your point?
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terpineva
08.05.2012 , 05:37 PM | #48
Its massive. You get 2-3 recruit geared players in your pub its almost a guaranteed loss. The difference between recruit gear and Fully Augmented WH/BM is massive. Maybe 30%?

I would like to blame the players for showing up in recruit gear, but TBH, its Biowares fault. Augmented gear has thrown everything (especially TTK) out of whack. Recruit gear needs to be much closer to BM than it is.

All 3 of my characters are full WH with Augments, my gripe isn't about my gear but the guys I'm forced to play with when I'm not doing rateds.

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08.05.2012 , 05:47 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by terpineva View Post
Its massive. You get 2-3 recruit geared players in your pub its almost a guaranteed loss. The difference between recruit gear and Fully Augmented WH/BM is massive. Maybe 30%?

I would like to blame the players for showing up in recruit gear, but TBH, its Biowares fault. Augmented gear has thrown everything (especially TTK) out of whack. Recruit gear needs to be much closer to BM than it is.

All 3 of my characters are full WH with Augments, my gripe isn't about my gear but the guys I'm forced to play with when I'm not doing rateds.
The disadvantage to a group that gets several players in recruit gear is definitely exponentially larger than the disadvantage to a single player who is in Recruit gear.
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08.05.2012 , 06:14 PM | #50
Compared to Warhammer Online?

The gap gear in this game is nothing.
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