Bioware rumored to say this isn't cheating. What do you guys think?

They get a loss for not taking the queue. I cant see how this would be productive unless they are the only two groups queueing. The team that gets their queue gets a free win. Boring but I dont see the issue. WTB x-server queues though!

On my server we have one guild who likes to do the following:

1. Have 2 teams from their guild (and maybe a couple pugs if they are a little short in numbers) queue for rated warzones.
2. Wait for the queue pop
3. If the queue pops and it isn't their guild they leave the queue
4. They immediately repeat the process until they get their own guild as opponents
5. They take turns winning and losing against themselves
6. Rinse and repeat.

It's not cheating. It may be a jerk move, but it's not cheating.

But guess what, if you're in your nice uber augmented WH gear, then you can just leave the queue and NOT get that guild. If you get them, you leave only after they haven't left.

Let the lowbies gear up, you can go elsewhere instead of crying about it.

The point people seem to miss is that most people don't care about wins and losses in preseason, they care about getting the gear for season 1. This is preseason, a time to gear up, build comps, and work on team strats/chemistry.

We are doing that on daily basis to be alione in wz to finally have some kind of training ground.

I don't agree it's cheating since you are loosing rating when you leave warzone or even pop (not queue).

And who cares about rating in preseason? with th eammount of RWZ teams on my server the best rating ive seen so far was about 1750 and noone from our guild has that high coz even trying daily - we played only about 100 of rwzs since 1.3.

TL;DR - no big deal

Greetings all,

Thank you for your posts. As there seems to be some confusion I'd just like to clarify that manipulation of the ranked Warzone system is not permitted in-game. This includes the win trading tactics you have mentioned in your first post as this takes advantage of the system in a way that allows for cheating and manipulating of the player rank.

In regards to reporting these events, I would refer to my colleague's previous post in terms of submitting a ticket with as much detail as possible to our in-game customer service team for investigation case by case, and not to discuss or report potential guilds or player names on the forums.

If you have any further queries or concerns please feel free to contact us again as we’d be happy to assist you further.

Thank You.

I don't agree it's cheating since you are loosing rating when you leave warzone or even pop (not queue).

We are doing that on daily basis to be alione in wz to finally have some kind of training ground.

noone from our guild has that high coz even trying daily - we played only about 100 of rwzs since 1.3.

I don't agree it's cheating since you are loosing rating when you leave warzone or even pop (not queue).

And who cares about rating in preseason?

On my server we have one guild who likes to do the following:

1. Have 2 teams from their guild (and maybe a couple pugs if they are a little short in numbers) queue for rated warzones.
2. Wait for the queue pop
3. If the queue pops and it isn't their guild they leave the queue
4. They immediately repeat the process until they get their own guild as opponents
5. They take turns winning and losing against themselves
6. Rinse and repeat.


Why are they doing this?
This guild takes turns winning, fixing the outcome of their own rated warzones. Not only that, but they claim that they are doing this to "level the playing field". They claim that by letting pugs into some of their guild groups, they are gearing up the poor and disenfranchised souls who are without gear because of the oppressive gear grinding system in SWTOR.

Why does this suck for everyone else?
It sucks because the opposing team gets a rated warzone against...nobody, and if they choose to leave their empty warzone they lose rating and the chance at some rated comms. Because of this most people have been sitting in empty warzones for 10 minutes twiddling their thumbs instead of playing against actual people...which is kind of the point of queuing for warzones. We all had to grind to get our gear, why should these people take a shortcut by manipulating the system? It also sucks because because the rated queue system is already full of bugs(like waiting an hour to get a wz only to find out there's another guild sitting around waiting for a pop as well) and we don't need any more wrenches being thrown into our gears.

So, I ask all of you.
Is this cheating?

This has been a heated debate in our own server forum that has resulted in many closed threads and posts deleted by moderators claiming that we are "naming" and "shaming" or are somehow otherwise wrong in what we've posted. We were instructed to bring this to the pvp forum if we have a pvp problem and reports the bugs, if any. Well, Mods...I'm done reporting bugs. I've reported many bugs, I've reported abuse, I've gotten no response. I've brought this to the pvp forum as you suggested. I haven't named any names. I'm not intentionally shaming anyone. Do you think maybe THIS thread can last more than 2 minutes? I'll start my eggtimer now. QUICK EVERYONE! READ REALLY FAST!