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Orange Modable items and Loot Rolls

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Orange Modable items and Loot Rolls

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Matty-Wan
12.19.2011 , 10:21 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Hypernetic View Post
I'm going to laugh when all of you greedy people can't find a group for anything because everyone on the server has black listed you.

Nobody is going to want to run a group with someone who need rolls on loot for a companion over a player or who takes an item for cosmetic reasons over someone who needs it as a legit upgrade.
You guys are fanatics. WoW didnt have a Orange Mod system afaik, its is a new system for a new game. Stop trying to force your old rules into a new game. Open your minds and try to think about this NEW SYSTEM in a new way.
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Thradar
12.19.2011 , 10:24 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Matty-Wan View Post
I do not come from WoW so I have only read about your views on "need and greed". From what I can tell the majority feel that it is absolutly wrong to need for an item if it doesn't have your stats. With that said...

I am a BH and a super cool looking piece of orange heavy armor drops. Turns out it has great armor too but it doesn't have my stats in it. However, all I need do to make it my stats is open it up and pop in the right mod.

I am of the belief that any heavy armor that drops which is orange is a "need" for me as a BH since I can make the stats as I wish. I just am wondering what others think.

Thanks
Still not cool.

Also not cool to roll need for your companion if someone elses actual character needs it.

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Edryk
12.19.2011 , 10:25 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Matty-Wan View Post
You guys are fanatics. WoW didnt have a Orange Mod system afaik, its is a new system for a new game. Stop trying to force your old rules into a new game. Open your minds and try to think about this NEW SYSTEM in a new way.
No, I'm pretty sure I won't want to group with people that will take a major upgrade from me 'for the looks'. That is in no way a need.

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Skytripa
12.19.2011 , 10:27 AM | #54
My guilds loot policy:

If it has your stats and you can use Need
If you want for companion Greed
Other wise Pass or Dismantle

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HeroCrusher
12.19.2011 , 10:30 AM | #55
It just depends on the player and the people in your group... I myself roll greed on almost everything because friends are more important then gear that will be replaced in hours/days.

I used to have a friend who rolled need on everything... it was just the way he was in real life to... he would never help anyone with a quest but expected 100% help for his quests witch he would then roll need on everything... It became such a problem that other players wouldn't group with us because he was known as a bad on the server becasue of his selfishness and stupidity... It can cause a real problem so think about it... Needless to say I do not play games with him anymore and def not mmo's...MMO's are best enjoyed with others while helping others!

It's easy to see how selfish some players are... all they think about is their own char... "a piece drops that is ready to go for a certain class... and you want to take it and mod it up for your own.... "selfish IMO" I refuse to play this game like most MMO"S are played.."first to power trip and finish all the content wins"!

I kind of wait for all the uptights to form their powertrip guilds then I look for a nice laid back guild... the laid back guilds are usually much better for helping you out as the leaders and officers aren't so selfish and busy lvling thier own chars...

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hatsjoe
12.19.2011 , 10:35 AM | #56
i had something similar happen to me.

I'm IA operative and there drops an orange blaster rifle.
There is an IA sniper in grp aswell who uses the same statts but he uses snipers instead.

He rolled need on it cause he said yea i can use the mods to make my weapon better. and sells the orange item.

How to roll in situations like these ?

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solmanian
12.19.2011 , 10:43 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by shama View Post
But if the armour of the item is higher, and so it is an improvement *despite* the current mods in it not being ideal then surely that is a "need"? With a quick swap of mods it is an even better improvement ...


"Greed" to me is for things that I can't use and will sell. Such as items that are for my class but worse than I'm using right now, or things I can't physically use. Things I can use, because they're an improvement (even if I have to tweak some mods) is "need". If for example a rare Elmo hat dropped, which has no decent stats on it but has a unique appearance, should no one roll "need" on it? If you don't have the elmo hat then I don't see why you can't 'need' it. Others who have the hat already can either pass or greed on it.



I guess this thread has just shown how differing people are in their expectations and how they behave towards one another. Have fun spending 30mins in gen chat whining about others!
The armor of orange items is the determined by the lvl of the mods, that argument is invalid.
If someone else wants the whole package of the item as is, and u need to modify it, he should get precedence.
You people should learn the difference between "want" and "need". That the holmark of ninja looters is that they can't tell the difference. Need isn't for any item u can use in some way, only for items that improve your GAMEPLAY. By your definition of "need", you justify crafters who want to RE the items, or people "needing" max lvl purples so they can sell it on AH. Crafters who want to RE should even get precedence, since they improve their craft and can get schematics, which are much more importent than cosmetic considerations. You want cosmetic oranges, go to a commendation vendors who sell tons of oranges of different kind.
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Matty-Wan
12.19.2011 , 10:48 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Edryk View Post
No, I'm pretty sure I won't want to group with people that will take a major upgrade from me 'for the looks'. That is in no way a need.
Oh brother... nobody is debating this^. I am talking about a situation where the armor is for ones spec and it is an upgrade in every way except it has say idk power instead of aim.
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Bladedheart
12.19.2011 , 10:51 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Matty-Wan View Post
You guys are fanatics. WoW didnt have a Orange Mod system afaik, its is a new system for a new game. Stop trying to force your old rules into a new game. Open your minds and try to think about this NEW SYSTEM in a new way.
Let's put it a bit more simply. Talk to the group first about what you want to do. If everyone agrees, cool.

Also look at it this way. the armor in your OP only dropped because the Sith Warrior was in your group, if he hadn't been in your group you wouldn't have even seen the armor in the first place, so it makes more sense that it's HIS. Run the FP again until YOUR armor drops.
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solmanian
12.19.2011 , 10:56 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by hatsjoe View Post
i had something similar happen to me.

I'm IA operative and there drops an orange blaster rifle.
There is an IA sniper in grp aswell who uses the same statts but he uses snipers instead.

He rolled need on it cause he said yea i can use the mods to make my weapon better. and sells the orange item.

How to roll in situations like these ?
I can see how with the new system people would role oranges for the mods. I would suggest a compromise in this position where he takes the mods he want, and u get the rifle since an orange rifle is more valuable to you than the mods (usually). It's common curtesy.
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