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Tuscad
07.29.2012 , 07:30 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by MXIII View Post
Alot of choices in the game were supposed to open up more content later on, but players didnt like that they would miss out on content because of their choices. For example they even showed a video one time of the Jedi knight sparing the Sith's life on tatooine, and then later in the game you got to see the sith again and here about how his jedi training was going.
I happen to have that video right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1dPoeXYN70&NR=1
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Gersidi
07.29.2012 , 07:31 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by MXIII View Post
Id say it was more the Testers than EA. Alot of stuff got cut during the testing phase. Killing companions, Meaningful Choices. Hell that whole kill the captain thing, made alot of players angry.

Alot of choices in the game were supposed to open up more content later on, but players didnt like that they would miss out on content because of their choices. For example they even showed a video one time of the Jedi knight sparing the Sith's life on tatooine, and then later in the game you got to see the sith again and here about how his jedi training was going.

That got cut during testing, along with how if you let the captain live you could get quests from him later on. Had nothing to do with EA. Alot of this stuff got cut during testing, by player feedback. So did crafting, and Modding.
I'd agree with you somewhat, however I remember the testing forums being littered with hundreds of posts about how the game was too linear, lacked innovation, customization was horrible, what choices? (even before we even knew about gifts). We can't even begin to tackle the whole combat issue because they didn't even let us test endgame, it was all done by their "secret" team.

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GalacticKegger
07.29.2012 , 07:31 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
Dont take my word for it. Just watch man... its happening all around you. Just because the die hards dont see it, does not mean it isnt happening. Ive been in enough MMOs to see it happen and I know what I see.
What I see is RWZ pops in less than 15 minutes, FP queues that take maybe 10 minutes at the most, making 50k a day on the GTN and more players grouping up than not. That's on 3 of the 12 servers: Jedi Covenant, Begeren and Drooga's. If the 12 current servers is enough to sustain development then the game's sub base has solidified. Whether or not it becomes the best selling game of all time makes no difference to the die hards you speak of.
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Okaprime
07.29.2012 , 07:31 PM | #44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BxfpbyV-uc

...that is all.

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rlhaas
07.29.2012 , 07:34 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Tuscad View Post
Then you just don't get it, the complaints wouldn't exist in this volume if the Devs did something.
LOLOLOLOL. Is this your first freaking day on the Internet?! All people DO on the Internet is complain. They complain about Apple, they complain about Kim Kardashian, they complain about the price of tea in China and they complain about video games. Get a grip there, Tuscad. There's a thread here that actually complains about having to choose, 'Environment: swtor1' on here. ONE EXTRA BUTTON CLICK. Yet, it exists. You people are stupid.
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Crash-X
07.29.2012 , 07:35 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by MXIII View Post
Id say it was more the Testers than EA. Alot of stuff got cut during the testing phase. Killing companions, Meaningful Choices. Hell that whole kill the captain thing, made alot of players angry.

Alot of choices in the game were supposed to open up more content later on, but players didnt like that they would miss out on content because of their choices. For example they even showed a video one time of the Jedi knight sparing the Sith's life on tatooine, and then later in the game you got to see the sith again and here about how his jedi training was going.

That got cut during testing, along with how if you let the captain live you could get quests from him later on. Had nothing to do with EA. Alot of this stuff got cut during testing, by player feedback. So did crafting, and Modding.
That is when it is on the devs and the people in charge of making the game have to know what is best for the game then.

Testers are really good for finding bugs and glitches. Testing out the game and not making such large decisions on the game like that.

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ChazDoit
07.29.2012 , 07:35 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Gersidi View Post
Haha he even used the exact words "take it to a new level" lol.
"...in the way that combat unfolds in the old republic"

But hey, dont even bother listening to the rest of the freaking sentence, you guys remind of religius zealots misquoting Darwin for some reason.

That video was actually talking about combat and how they plan to take it to a new level, etc.

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MXIII
07.29.2012 , 07:37 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Gersidi View Post
I'd agree with you somewhat, however I remember the testing forums being littered with hundreds of posts about how the game was too linear, lacked innovation, customization was horrible, what choices? (even before we even knew about gifts). We can't even begin to tackle the whole combat issue because they didn't even let us test endgame, it was all done by their "secret" team.
I just gave you two examples of the choices. Also there was alot more to modding, and gear customization then what everyone got in the open beta. Yeah Character customization really kinda sucks. But when they said there was going to be hundreds of customizeable options they were talking about gear, not character creation, in fact character creation was one of the very last things they talked about...in fact I dont think they ever talked about it really, just let it leak out lol.

The moddable gear was really awesome because you could really make a unique look for your character, didnt matter what you looked like UNDER the Armor. However alot of that stuff got changed too in testing, because players didnt like how moddable gear made gear grinding pretty much obsolete.
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DarthCDiv
07.29.2012 , 07:39 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by rlhaas View Post
LOLOLOLOL. Is this your first freaking day on the Internet?! All people DO on the Internet is complain. They complain about Apple, they complain about Kim Kardashian, they complain about the price of tea in China and they complain about video games. Get a grip there, Tuscad. There's a thread here that actually complains about having to choose, 'Environment: swtor1' on here. ONE EXTRA BUTTON CLICK. Yet, it exists. You people are stupid.
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MXIII
07.29.2012 , 07:39 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Crash-X View Post
That is when it is on the devs and the people in charge of making the game have to know what is best for the game then.

Testers are really good for finding bugs and glitches. Testing out the game and not making such large decisions on the game like that.
I agree. However when your player base whines **** gets changed. Hell it happens in WOW all the time. They just have 10 million subs so anyone who complains about the changes can be shunned. Unlike here.
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