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Broken Promises or Unrealistic Expectations?

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Broken Promises or Unrealistic Expectations?

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MXIII
07.29.2012 , 07:23 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
Perhaps. But when you keep repeating over the years how heroic is this and how heroic is that... and how some things aren`t possible because of Lore... only to come year 2011 and say "We got some good news and some bad news about Raids.. the good news is that they`re called Operations! The bad news is that you need 8 and 16 heroic people to beat down on a single Boss, because it isn`t heroic for 8 or 16 people to beat on one Boss" ; or making Pureblood or Miraluka available for sides that they aren`t normally available in the Lore... then it`s lying.

Why? Because their tune never changed since then. It was the same crap about feeling heroic and how they`ll bring MMO to a new level.
When did they say they were going to bring MMOs to a new level? I remember them saying they WERENT re inventing the wheel, they were just adding the Story pillar. I know this for a fact,because since 2008 all the way up until about a year to release, story was ALL they wanted to talk about.
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Lunablade
07.29.2012 , 07:25 PM | #32
The sad truth is that BW is not only developer with unrealized promises to their community.
Maybe they wanted best and wanted to implement most of those promised things but time worked against them and EA pressure on them to push the game out for Christmas release so that many features which they originally planned for the game where cuted from release.

MMOS are type of games which are constantly in development and in which are constantly added new things during their lifespan so maybe some of those features will come in the future updates.

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Tuscad
07.29.2012 , 07:25 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
If that is true then it's because most are actually playing the game or doing RL stuff (Olympics come to mind.)
You just put an image of all of the forum posters competing in the Olympics, it is a very funny picture I can't stop laughing.
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Styxx
07.29.2012 , 07:26 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by MXIII View Post
When did they say they were going to bring MMOs to a new level? I remember them saying they WERENT re inventing the wheel, they were just adding the Story pillar. I know this for a fact,because since 2008 all the way up until about a year to release, story was ALL they wanted to talk about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRC8exLv2lw at 0:55

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Soluss
07.29.2012 , 07:26 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Well - gee now. I heard about the 400k decrease in subs from 1.7M to 1.3M as reported in April. Not exactly every quarter unless we are supposed to take your word for it.
Dont take my word for it. Just watch man... its happening all around you. Just because the die hards dont see it, does not mean it isnt happening. Ive been in enough MMOs to see it happen and I know what I see.

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GalacticKegger
07.29.2012 , 07:26 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Tuscad View Post
You just put an image of all of the forum posters competing in the Olympics, it is a very funny picture I can't stop laughing.
Oh god how painful would that be to watch!
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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Tuscad
07.29.2012 , 07:27 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by rlhaas View Post
Man, why did I come back here again? I stopped playing for a long while partly because I couldn't stand all the inane drivel, both on the boards and in the chat. It just got too much. I mean, people complaining IN THE GAME WHILE PLAYING THE GAME just got to be too much. I bounced. I come back, and it's like I never left. The SAME complaints, the SAME arguments, and the SAME people saying the SAME things. Idiots, the lot of you. I would like to see some examples of other MMO developers who said they were going to do one thing, and than did another. There would be a lot, methinks. Topic is dumb, people are dumb, SW:TOR boards are Gamefaqs level. Congrats.
Then you just don't get it, the complaints wouldn't exist in this volume if the Devs did something.
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Gersidi
07.29.2012 , 07:28 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
Haha he even used the exact words "take it to a new level" lol.

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MXIII
07.29.2012 , 07:28 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Lunablade View Post
The sad truth is that BW is not only developer with unrealized promises to their community.
Maybe they wanted best and wanted to implement most of those promised things but time worked against them and EA pressure on them to push the game out for Christmas release so that many features needed to be cuted from the game.

MMOS are type of games which are constantly in development and which are constantly added new things during their lifespan so maybe some of those feature will come in the future updates.
Id say it was more the Testers than EA. Alot of stuff got cut during the testing phase. Killing companions, Meaningful Choices. Hell that whole kill the captain thing, made alot of players angry.

Alot of choices in the game were supposed to open up more content later on, but players didnt like that they would miss out on content because of their choices. For example they even showed a video one time of the Jedi knight sparing the Sith's life on tatooine, and then later in the game you got to see the sith again and here about how his jedi training was going.

That got cut during testing, along with how if you let the captain live you could get quests from him later on. Had nothing to do with EA. Alot of this stuff got cut during testing, by player feedback. So did crafting, and Modding.
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MXIII
07.29.2012 , 07:30 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
"We're going to MMOs to a new level in the way the combat unfolds in The Old Republic"

Okay...well they delivered that we have the cinematic like combat. How does this have anything to do with Raids, or PVP?
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