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Servers on the decline again....

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Comstrike
07.29.2012 , 10:10 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
I agree. I just wonder did they lay off a lot of people and before all this new content are we going to see the 100% f2p switch? A head guy from EA said in the next few weeks we would see a "new way to play". In my opinion the reason content has stopped (I mean 1.2 added a little bit but in reality they havent added any new content except a couple ops since launch) is most likely the same reason we got the silent treatment from Turbine when LOTRO went f2p.

Also there were fanboys just like here who said LOTRO would never go f2p. The devs insisted up until 90 days before the launch they had "no plans to go f2p". It took them almost a year to finally launch it in that time we got nothing for new content. No communication either just like here. Its deja-vu for me.
You must read my other posts! Been saying this for months.
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Sarfux
07.29.2012 , 10:16 AM | #62
You want a revolutionary endgame experience? Take a look at my thread in my signature
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Daethorz
07.29.2012 , 10:22 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Comstrike View Post
This relates to the point I've been making for a month or more.

Something is clogging up the works. It isn't simple bug fixes. It isn't rolling out the content they had on the shelf. Something else, clearly very big, is coming down the road. No marketing hype, no details, not a peep about what is going on. Lots of management level and game design/concept/direction changes. Fewer technical layoffs than world-builders, video editors, and related "creatives."

It all points to something mainly technical. Enter a new hire from EA in California, whose programming focus is entirely ecommerce focused, and the continued existence of a bright, younger, Sr. Project Manager in the area of ecommerce. Rumbles and discussions about viability of subscriptions. Etc.

To my mind, this means they are reworking the existing game into the F2P/cash store model. It would explain having to grind out reworking so much. It may also be why a NEW hire coming in, has such a focus. I can't see any other reason for that. Likewise, a Sr. PM is expensive and certain to have multiple active teams, none of which I can see having work to do with what little ecommerece was already out there.

In fact, even with a level cap, an in-game store would be little used given how dirt easy it is to level and get XP. A larger cap, rebalanced XP curve, makes sense for such a move, and still doesn't account for the slow-down.

Just my thoughts.
If they are putting work into a F2P system with a stupid cash shop I hope they enjoy their future completely dead mmo, i would never come back unless the cash shop was useless, and i would never buy out if it regardless.

If they just add a new endgame, revolutionary mmo experience, even the guy above, my suggestion list too, srsly.. this game is so bland.

Swtor is a Big Double layer cake, with no frosting.
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Leggomy
07.29.2012 , 10:22 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
You want a revolutionary endgame experience? Take a look at my thread in my signature
I want a whole game experience. Not just end game. This game is close if they would just listen to people. Communicate and put out some new content. I like the game but its no good to me if everyone else quits.

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Daethorz
07.29.2012 , 10:25 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
I want a whole game experience. Not just end game. This game is close if they would just listen to people. Communicate and put out some new content. I like the game but its no good to me if everyone else quits.
Endgame is the biggest problem right now, heck i enjoy leveling new classes through the same empire content, simply because of how well made the class storys are.

I do agree this game needs non-linear mission content, such as extra cities on tatooine with alternate missions, and so on with other planets.

My list of suggestions would really give endgame a breath of life, but even my highly thought out list is not enough.

This is a mmo afterall, we pay $15/mo expecting new content, a new operation/flashpoint is not enough for me, and thats why i quit WoW, i wanted new CONTENT, firelands actually added a pretty cool, yet small zone, i wanted every patch to be like that or more.
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Comstrike
07.29.2012 , 10:54 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Daethorz View Post
If they are putting work into a F2P system with a stupid cash shop I hope they enjoy their future completely dead mmo, i would never come back unless the cash shop was useless, and i would never buy out if it regardless.

If they just add a new endgame, revolutionary mmo experience, even the guy above, my suggestion list too, srsly.. this game is so bland.

Swtor is a Big Double layer cake, with no frosting.
One is entitled to however you view cash shops.

That said, they wouldn't roll out new content, only to have to totally rework it. Well.....unlike PvP on Illum.

In truth, many in my LOTRO kinship are waiting for F2P, if, and only IF it is like that in LOTRO. However some feel EA may go another route as with their other games, which would alienate even me.

As I said in other thread. My main worry is if they continue to gaff it up, does this game last only three years or so? MMORPGs require a large investment in time and with RP'ers, emotion and effort. Some with well run guilds. Do I believe this game is beyond fail safe? Will it really last? LOTRO is on year five, and shows no sign of ending before ten. Sure, they could let this run in the shadows, little development, for years. SWG did the same.

But EA has this evil hate of non-new games. They love slicing games offline that aren't new or "hawt" enough. They could pull some lame "we had a great run, did so many great things, time to move-on," and shut down. Lord knows their PR never reflects reality anyway, you can start to see how they might go and BS their way around failing, and actually declare it victory.
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Tsillah
07.29.2012 , 10:58 AM | #67
oh, I thought this thread was about server population....my bad.
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Leggomy
07.29.2012 , 11:01 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Daethorz View Post
Endgame is the biggest problem right now, heck i enjoy leveling new classes through the same empire content, simply because of how well made the class storys are.

I do agree this game needs non-linear mission content, such as extra cities on tatooine with alternate missions, and so on with other planets.

My list of suggestions would really give endgame a breath of life, but even my highly thought out list is not enough.

This is a mmo afterall, we pay $15/mo expecting new content, a new operation/flashpoint is not enough for me, and thats why i quit WoW, i wanted new CONTENT, firelands actually added a pretty cool, yet small zone, i wanted every patch to be like that or more.
Not everyone focuses only on end game. They need core features other MMOs have like char transfers etc. New planets, new races, new gear etc is all for everyone not just for end game.

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DarkZeron
07.29.2012 , 11:19 AM | #69
I just dont understand why we are surprised. The population was declining before the server merge, and the main reason for that wasnt the low server population.

As nothing changed in the game other then having more guy running around you, the same trend just start to reapply, people are bored of the game and not logging on as frequently or at all.
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Malevul
07.29.2012 , 11:23 AM | #70
29 July, time for sex and swimming ...anyway is it a decline??

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