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Telling Others to Create New Characters Won't Solve Anything!!

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Telling Others to Create New Characters Won't Solve Anything!!

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cshouston
07.29.2012 , 07:44 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Januaria View Post
"This game does has some things other MMOs don't have, but I'm trying my best to enjoy this game with my friends and guilds and still support it. Sadly, I'm also finding many of my friends and community-mates leaving for games like Guild Wars 2 and it's just sad. "

Out of curiosity I looked up the GW2 web site. I realize that the game is not yet out, but from what I've seen on their OFFICIAL site, GW2 art work looks awful. Where are the luscious graphics? Every image looks like sketches still in the conceptualization stage of development. If what I've seen so far is GW2's finished product, SWTOR has nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, to worry about.

And hell, I'm far from being a fanboi for SWTOR, but I've yet to see a better MMO. Not saying it'll never happen, but I'm just not seeing anything on the market (or in the pipeline) that compares to this game.
WHAT are you TALKING about? Having played all three beta weekend events, I can tell you right now that the game's graphics blow SWTOR out of the water. The environments are beautiful and the character design is far better than 9 different versions of the same humanoid. Also, unlike SWTOR (which is devoid of flavor and utterly sterile), the world is alive. Everywhere you go, it's teeming with life and the cities are massive and active with NPCs going about their business, talking to one another, and living their virtual lives. All SWTOR had going for it, in my eyes, was PvE raiding content. GW2 does EVERYTHING else better.
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cs_Kimmo
07.29.2012 , 08:04 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Januaria View Post
Out of curiosity I looked up the GW2 web site. I realize that the game is not yet out, but from what I've seen on their OFFICIAL site, GW2 art work looks awful. Where are the luscious graphics?
Considering that the whole game is supposed to resemble an oil pointing more than "OH SUPER REALISTIC CRYSIS-LIKE PHOTOREALISTIC GRAPHIX, CANT TELL BETWEEN REAL WORLD AND GAME", I don't know what the problem is. MMOs are not supposed to be benchmark games with graphics only 1% of the consumers' computers will handle. I'll take GW2's art style over SWTOR's "trying to look like Star Wars and 70s comics, but due to lack of polygons ends up looking like ****" any day of the week.

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Tiaa
07.29.2012 , 08:21 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by cshouston View Post
WHAT are you TALKING about? Having played all three beta weekend events, I can tell you right now that the game's graphics blow SWTOR out of the water. The environments are beautiful and the character design is far better than 9 different versions of the same humanoid. Also, unlike SWTOR (which is devoid of flavor and utterly sterile), the world is alive. Everywhere you go, it's teeming with life and the cities are massive and active with NPCs going about their business, talking to one another, and living their virtual lives. All SWTOR had going for it, in my eyes, was PvE raiding content. GW2 does EVERYTHING else better.
Don't worry.

They did the samething with Diablo 3.

Talked about how "bad" it looked etc and doing the samething with GW2.

Yet that didn't stop floods of players from leaving.

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Talon_strikes
07.29.2012 , 11:21 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Izorii View Post
This is what I think a new character is a band aid. It will stop the bleegding for a week or two but it is no long term fix, while a new speices unlock may get me to re do a story or maybe try out another class, 4 stores down I know that a lot of the game will be repetative world arc if I play again.
I also don't know what'll happen when they increase the level cap. All that grinding for nothing?

I'd also imagine a new species not change anything in the story because you'll still have the same type of story quests to do with the only classes available.
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07.29.2012 , 01:15 PM | #45
Maybe a month ago I was still relatively excited with all the content on TOR because I'm not much of an endgame player, and enjoy creating new characters and playing through the storylines. Now I think it's all pretty bland and boring -- there's been many times when I'd just log into the game, choose a character I want to do a nice evening marathon of PvP and immerse myself in other content. Then I'd just log out, because I realize how low-grade and lacking this game really is, at least right now.

It's so obvious people in the community want more endgame, social and other content. What do the devs do? Plan to release a new playable species in hopes of it encouraging players to create new Cathar characters. Why not include Trandoshans, Togruta, Sullustans, Rodians and all the other species we all love -- in one bundle?

Maybe I'm impatient or being juvenile. It's just so dismaying to see this highly anticipated game dry up in a matter of a few months after its release. I don't think Bioware was fully prepared with a backup plan or anything to answer the simple demands players are making now.

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I'd also imagine a new species not change anything in the story because you'll still have the same type of story quests to do with the only classes available.
You know, it really brings out the desperation of the development teams with the current climate. They think adding one new playable species will compensate, at least for a short period, the real needs of the players.

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Talon_strikes
07.29.2012 , 05:42 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by AscendantOps View Post
Maybe a month ago I was still relatively excited with all the content on TOR because I'm not much of an endgame player, and enjoy creating new characters and playing through the storylines. Now I think it's all pretty bland and boring -- there's been many times when I'd just log into the game, choose a character I want to do a nice evening marathon of PvP and immerse myself in other content. Then I'd just log out, because I realize how low-grade and lacking this game really is, at least right now.

It's so obvious people in the community want more endgame, social and other content. What do the devs do? Plan to release a new playable species in hopes of it encouraging players to create new Cathar characters. Why not include Trandoshans, Togruta, Sullustans, Rodians and all the other species we all love -- in one bundle?

Maybe I'm impatient or being juvenile. It's just so dismaying to see this highly anticipated game dry up in a matter of a few months after its release. I don't think Bioware was fully prepared with a backup plan or anything to answer the simple demands players are making now.


You know, it really brings out the desperation of the development teams with the current climate. They think adding one new playable species will compensate, at least for a short period, the real needs of the players.
I'm not sure if they're desperate, but it's just sad.

I wanted to epic and immersed space battles. Space is something so epic in the Star Wars saga that making it an improved clone of Star Fox was a complete joke. They just got uber lazy with the space part. I mean, why would they think any of their fan-base would like that at all? It just doesn't add up. There have been quite a few players here on these forums actually say they do enjoy it, but let's face, those are 1% of the community that probably wanted a new Star Fox game. SWTOR gave that to them.

Another thing I wanted was land battles that would occur once the enemy has penetrated the fleets in space to come down and possibly control the planet. I wanted all these battles to have a reason, and to see which faction would gain the upper hand. This battle may take place during the Cold War, but we've fought the Imperials on here before through PvE and it does occur during Open World PvP, too (if there is any ).

This has also gotten me possibly go at it and create my own SW MMO in the future. I just see this game only getting better for those that love the story and don't mind all of the side-quests that they don't spacebar and don't see this game as a grindfest. This has also gotten me to think that maybe this should have just been KOTOR3.

I just, I'm so disappointed and I'm not surprised that the majority of the servers are going down in population again.
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07.29.2012 , 06:43 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkZeron View Post
Here is a solution: Provide more content.
Heres a solution.....wait for it like you have to do IN EVERY SINGLE OTHER MMO.
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TKMaster
07.29.2012 , 06:49 PM | #48
Im defenatly going to be watching the lolgw2 forums for the lulz after a couple of months to watch the trolls and MMO nomads flame it endlessly for the same things they piss and moan about here.....and in every other single MMO on the planet earth.
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NorrinRaddd
07.29.2012 , 07:56 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Januaria View Post
"This game does has some things other MMOs don't have, but I'm trying my best to enjoy this game with my friends and guilds and still support it. Sadly, I'm also finding many of my friends and community-mates leaving for games like Guild Wars 2 and it's just sad. "

Out of curiosity I looked up the GW2 web site. I realize that the game is not yet out, but from what I've seen on their OFFICIAL site, GW2 art work looks awful. Where are the luscious graphics? Every image looks like sketches still in the conceptualization stage of development. If what I've seen so far is GW2's finished product, SWTOR has nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, to worry about.

And hell, I'm far from being a fanboi for SWTOR, but I've yet to see a better MMO. Not saying it'll never happen, but I'm just not seeing anything on the market (or in the pipeline) that compares to this game.
So who payed you to say that, although swtor isnt a terrible game it does have its flaws and i can say GW2 art style is 10x tors is, just putting that out there....

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RobNightfall
07.29.2012 , 08:03 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Januaria View Post
"This game does has some things other MMOs don't have, but I'm trying my best to enjoy this game with my friends and guilds and still support it. Sadly, I'm also finding many of my friends and community-mates leaving for games like Guild Wars 2 and it's just sad. "

Out of curiosity I looked up the GW2 web site. I realize that the game is not yet out, but from what I've seen on their OFFICIAL site, GW2 art work looks awful. Where are the luscious graphics? Every image looks like sketches still in the conceptualization stage of development. If what I've seen so far is GW2's finished product, SWTOR has nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, to worry about.

And hell, I'm far from being a fanboi for SWTOR, but I've yet to see a better MMO. Not saying it'll never happen, but I'm just not seeing anything on the market (or in the pipeline) that compares to this game.
Look up GW2 on youtube, the betas aren't closed any more and there are some decent HD graphics there. For GW2, like SWTOR, you have to like the style of art. If you don't, it'll look like crap to you. I like the scenery and hate the character models, personally. And I'm still going to play it for the lack of lag in PvP (game-play trumps graphics for me).
Edited because the devs appear to have fixed at least 80% of the crap that was pissing me off.