Telling Others to Create New Characters Won't Solve Anything!!

I played GW2 during the weekend beta for pre-orders for about 6 hours. It wasn’t fun, the graphics aren’t that great. Overall I think SWTOR is much more fun to play, for me. Others won’t agree with my opinion, fine. GW2 is the first game I ever pre-ordered, then canceled after playing the beta, it was that bad to me.

I’ll be sticking with SWTOR for the foreseeable future. Though, they are getting close to my unsub limit with the lack of content they promised would be in, then said sorry, it will be in within the first 6 months, then the first year. They have a lil over 4 month to get that stuff in, or I’ll be finding a new habit.

SWTOR put way too much on the storytelling- playing TSW you see a game that has not as good cinematics, but more creative questing (though the combat is a bit more clunky). Regardless, few other games compete for casual pve with SWTOR- pretty much TSW is the only competition right now. For hardcore pve WoW is way ahead in raiding and grinding mechanics.

Yet, SWTOR's pvp is grindy, uninspired and the ranked and open world pvp decisions they've made are terrible- not to mention the game's awful balancing is now legendary as pretty much the worst balanced pvp games in years.

It's not even a question that GW2 is going to beat SWTOR hard in pvp matters- but at this point, SWTOR beat itself, and the plummeting subs after 1.2 proves it... BW didn't need GW2 to lose their pvp playerbase when they did it themselves.

GW2 however isn't going to take anyone for the pve aspect- as good as the pvp is, the pve in GW2 is awful... but that's no surprise, that'd be like being surprised when the new CoD game has a terrible 2 hour long campaign.

Really?

Are you sure it's not the Star Warsness?

Because WAR is a much better PvP and RvR (not hard RvR-wise as their is none in SWTOR) MMORPG and even PvE-wise I wouldn't say SWTOR has that much over it.

LOTRO certainly has as much PvE-wise (and soon more with mounted combat perhaps).

Even Rift is there or there abouts, and if it had a SW skin it would be better.

SWTOR isn't bad, but with it's flaws and well as strengths it's not to me pulling ahead of those mentioned (never mind the game that must not be mentioned).

Look at how far the subs have dropped- it'll easily be below 500k after GW2 comes out, which is below what they want for it to be profitable.

So, it seems like they did.

Your point is moot. Look at Warcraft and how outdated their graphics are....

The thing with GW2 there is A TON of things to do. WAY more than SWTOR.

If you want, watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtG0k...em-uploademail
for an Honest opinion.

Also GW2 does not have a sub fee, it's Pay2Play. So why not still play both?

This is what I think a new character is a band aid. It will stop the bleegding for a week or two but it is no long term fix, while a new speices unlock may get me to re do a story or maybe try out another class, 4 stores down I know that a lot of the game will be repetative world arc if I play again.

Have u played the Beta and saw an awful game?

Or are u just babbling nonsense by looking at pics?

I played 2 BWEs and did both PVE and PVP.
I agree with your opinion about PVP, but I disagree about PVE. Two Reasons:
1st) I found PVE really fun and inspired (personal opinion of course), at least what I had chance to test (my highest level in BWEs was 17). Combat is very fast and dinamic, with dodges and combos, and there is no GDC.
2nd) Combat mechacnics is exactly the same for both PVE and PVP. If it's fun at PVP it is also fun at PVE.

Said that...,
it's GW2 going to kill WOW? Certainly not becasue GW2 allows players keep their WoW subs.
It's GW2 going to kill SWTOR? Certainly not because of the same reasons it won't kill WoW.

Guild Wars art looks awful?

Is that why they win awards for their art?

Is that why their art is featured on Conceptart.org (You probably never heard of it because you probably aren't even an artist)

Do you know what conceptual art is? Do you even know what the word "concept" means?

Have you played any games where the concept art looks exactly like whats in game?

Have you seen that the Guild Wars 2 conceptal art transition to in-game is much better than the actual art?

Are you even an artist?

So many Mr. Know_It_Alls who are really ------

it's disturbing.

Seriously? No, really, seriously?

I checked out the first minute of that very long clip. To be honest, GW2 doesn't not look like it's designed for adults. I'd say the primary demographic target would be boys (and girls) aged 13 - 18 -- mostly high school age. As an adult, I found that video clip laughable.

Of course that doesn't address the game's mechanics, and they may truly be revolutionary; but I found the toons in that clip to be unappealingly childish. I don't care if it's F2P or even if they PAID you to play it...

Nope, no TY, for all it's many, many faults, flaws, and irritations, I'm sticking with SWTOR until something better comes along.