EA shareholders meeting: over/under 300k subs?

Just to help people out with sub times and ending dates:

Anyone who purchased the game at launch (or pre ordered), and bought a 6 month sub up front, will have their account end around 8/17/2012. (My account ending date. It might be 8/16.)

6 months, plus 1 free month for purchase, plus the free month handed out for having level 50 - or whatever that promotion ended up being.

The real question is if they count the free trial people under "active accounts" do they ever expire? they don't pay anything and can play forever up to 15, so the subs will be padded more and more every report if they just keep adding them up which they technically could do with their previous definition of "active" accounts.

If I stop playing and my sub expires, will I still be counted as an "active" account since I can still play free up to 15?

It would be incredibly misleading but I wouldn't really put it past EA. If that is the case the could report up to 3 million "active" accounts with their new F2P program in place.

You said thier subscriptions had declined. For WoW. Which is true when comparing the beginning of 2012 to the beginning of 2011. What you are refering to is "Activisions" total revenue sales, which have declined from the year before. A lot of things can affect that. You said...." they have lost millions of subs and replaced them with bots." They lost 1.8 million subs and to say they replaced millions with bots is pure speculation on your part because you hate WoW. Even if they did...those would be paying account subs.

Activision consists of more than just WoW you know? And yeah..I do misspell words at times. The "intent" of my post was correct tho. Because you was stating they are continuing to lose revenue. You say that in spite of the fact D3 sold over 6 million copies.? Talk about someone who should check thier facts.

I donot disagree with that. I know for certain the majority of thier subs come from Asia. But they are still "subs" and that was my point. The tokens are basically what we call game time cards and of course they would be considered active if they still have time on them. But to say millions are not using time on thier cards or tokens is a bit far fetched in my opinion.

This is what wow does with its Asian accounts, so why not?

They are NOT time cards that run out. They still exist even if have only a nickel on them.

So would a time card if it has 1 day left.

No..they have never included free trials as active accounts. The only accounts that are considered active are accounts being paid for. Whether it's an hourly token or a monthly fee..it's money.

Free Trials are considered Trial accounts. How can nobody grasp that concept?

Either way, this thread for some reason started focusing on WoW's stuff. It's a shame for Bioware really that so many people would want to try to compare them with Blizzard. Really, tho. Because when they do, even Blizzard's smallest numbers (thrown around in this forum to be around 4.2 million, and that's just swtor fanboy speculation) make SwToR's current state look ridiculously small.

But that day would soon pass, say in 24hours, and the one using it would no longer be counted as a sub.

Whereas, the unused "token" could last forever, and still be counted.

Here's what I said "Activision's online subscription revenue has decreased for the past 7 quarters in a row"

What you said, "Activision and Blizzard are different companies and WoW still has 10.2 million subs and now they just released D3 so you must be wrong."

Nothing you said refutes the FACT that the filings with SEC that I linked and that you OBVIOUSLY didn't read refutes my point. You are still wrong.

"Though," not "tho." And you keep misspelling "their" as "thier," I said online subscription REVENUE, REVENUE, REVENUE. Revenue means MONEY not SUBS, MONEY. I can only conclude that you must be trolling. You tried harassing me over grammar that wasn't correct, yet you keep making terrible grammatical mistakes in your own posts. The company is Activision Blizzard and the amount of money it makes from Online Subscription Revenue, the subs from WoW, has gone quarter to quarter for nearly two years straight. That is a fact that is proven and filed with the SEC as per the documents that I listed. You clearly have no idea what I'm talking about, which makes the ardent nature of your posts even more comical.

The document I linked was for Activision Blizzard and SPECIFICALLY denotes sales of WoW and subs from WoW in the * at the bottom of the page I cited and linked. Since you clearly didn't even read the FACTS I showed to you. You must be trolling.

You have no idea what you're talking about.
You didn't fact check your own evidence, which is wrong by the way.
You didn't fact check MY evidence.
You're arguing about something completely different than I am on top of that.
Straw man, nonsequitar, red herring, false dichotomy, ad hominem, you're committing so many fallacies you have to be trolling.