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Pro-skippers, politeness will get you further

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TheBBP
07.27.2012 , 01:05 PM | #251
Quote: Originally Posted by Okamakiri View Post
I rest my case.
Most people also do not mind if someone wants to watch the scenes. Speed run? Cool. Want to watch the scenes? Cool. Or, you can get all rage-bent and kick someone. LOL.

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ScarletBlaze
07.27.2012 , 01:08 PM | #252
Quote: Originally Posted by Okamakiri View Post
I rest my case.
But not everyone. There are some that like to see the dialogue even in hard mode and furthermore some people have never done them until they get to level 50 so they are doing the hard modes and that is their right to do whichever mode they want to.

You have no right to tell them go do it in Story Mode because you demand a speed run. Most people have no problems watching the dialogue. The best way to handle this is find out up front what people would like and not be so demanding that it is your way or else. That is rude and disrespectful.

Of course the person being kicked might be yourself for being so rude.
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ProsaicProse
07.27.2012 , 02:03 PM | #253
Yea, in my experience, most folks don't care if people watch the cutscenes. Personally, I don't care either way, unless I haven't seen them before. Though, if people are willing to rant and kick someone for watching a cutscene, they probably aren't the kind of people I'd want to run with anyway.

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Cupelixx
07.27.2012 , 02:32 PM | #254
Quote: Originally Posted by Okamakiri View Post
I've never failed to vote off someone because they're holding up the group, so from my experience majority do not condone this behaviour. It is their right to watch the story, on THEIR time, not at at the expense of others. Therefore, if you want to watch the story, stick to Story Mode.
Pay attention very carefully. I know this concept is hard to understand. The DEFAULT option in a flashpoint is to play through the cutscenes. This is clearly indicated by Bioware since they did not include an option to automatically bypass all cutscenes. Even if you spaebar, you are still required to interact to advance. The default option is NOT spacebar. I don't have to press a special key that says "yes I want to see the scene". That makes this option baseline. Standard. Default.

What that means is you have no ground to stand on when it comes to "you are wasting everyone's time". Your time is equally valuable. Your time is not more valuable, and is not being wasted. By default, you are watching the cutscene and would be spending that time anyway. You should only queue with the understanding that by default, you are sitting through all of the content for however long it may take. Spacebar is the exception, not the rule. If you want to spacebar, good for you. But have no expectations or assumptions that everyone agrees with you. Again, if someone wants to watch the scene and you don't, they are still entitled, not you. If you don't like it, unfortunately that's too bad. Learn to suck it up and deal, or create a run explicitly defined as a spacebar run.
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DarthTHC
07.27.2012 , 02:36 PM | #255
Quote: Originally Posted by Cupelixx View Post
Pay attention very carefully. I know this concept is hard to understand. The DEFAULT option in a flashpoint is to play through the cutscenes. This is clearly indicated by Bioware since they did not include an option to automatically bypass all cutscenes. Even if you spaebar, you are still required to interact to advance. The default option is NOT spacebar. I don't have to press a special key that says "yes I want to see the scene". That makes this option baseline. Standard. Default.

What that means is you have no ground to stand on when it comes to "you are wasting everyone's time". Your time is equally valuable. Your time is not more valuable, and is not being wasted. By default, you are watching the cutscene and would be spending that time anyway. You should only queue with the understanding that by default, you are sitting through all of the content for however long it may take. Spacebar is the exception, not the rule. If you want to spacebar, good for you. But have no expectations or assumptions that everyone agrees with you. Again, if someone wants to watch the scene and you don't, they are still entitled, not you. If you don't like it, unfortunately that's too bad. Learn to suck it up and deal, or create a run explicitly defined as a spacebar run.


The default in Groupfinder for all Guardians is TANK and DPS. The default in Groupfinder for all Commandos is HEAL and DPS.

Does that mean that all Guardians and Commandos should always leave those defaults when they queue?

Defaults are defaults and essentially meaningless.

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Sarfux
07.27.2012 , 02:47 PM | #256
I never have space barred ONCE in this whole game. I LOVE the cutscenes and interaction of the choices being made in real time. It's amazing for an mmorpg to get it. I have been through sooooo many cutscenes. Does it bother me NO.

If people don't want to spacebar...what's the big deal? This is what this game is. Sit back, relax and enjoy the cutscenes. Not just "spacebbaarrrrr dammit!!" Sorry..but that's not what this game is
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Anakronist
07.27.2012 , 03:04 PM | #257
I always ask if people have done the flashpoint before... If everyone in the group has done it before then I ask them to skip the scenes, if not I don't mind. I'd rather, though, it goes a bit faster, when I have seen those scenes about 20 times before, than have to watch them again, but if people are new to it thats fine too.

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TheBBP
07.27.2012 , 03:04 PM | #258
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
The default in Groupfinder for all Guardians is TANK and DPS. The default in Groupfinder for all Commandos is HEAL and DPS.

Does that mean that all Guardians and Commandos should always leave those defaults when they queue?

Defaults are defaults and essentially meaningless.
Strawman at best. Both roles are checked because those classes are able to do both roles. You choose which role you want just like you can choose to watch the scenes or not.

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Trollokdamus
07.27.2012 , 03:11 PM | #259
Quote: Originally Posted by Cupelixx View Post
Pay attention very carefully. I know this concept is hard to understand. The DEFAULT option in a flashpoint is to play through the cutscenes. This is clearly indicated by Bioware since they did not include an option to automatically bypass all cutscenes. Even if you spaebar, you are still required to interact to advance. The default option is NOT spacebar. I don't have to press a special key that says "yes I want to see the scene". That makes this option baseline. Standard. Default.

What that means is you have no ground to stand on when it comes to "you are wasting everyone's time". Your time is equally valuable. Your time is not more valuable, and is not being wasted. By default, you are watching the cutscene and would be spending that time anyway. You should only queue with the understanding that by default, you are sitting through all of the content for however long it may take. Spacebar is the exception, not the rule. If you want to spacebar, good for you. But have no expectations or assumptions that everyone agrees with you. Again, if someone wants to watch the scene and you don't, they are still entitled, not you. If you don't like it, unfortunately that's too bad. Learn to suck it up and deal, or create a run explicitly defined as a spacebar run.
This was stated by many people in this thread multiple times, including me. But all those "go story mode" people seem to ignore such posts, so no point in repeating it again to be honest.

Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
The default in Groupfinder for all Guardians is TANK and DPS. The default in Groupfinder for all Commandos is HEAL and DPS.

Does that mean that all Guardians and Commandos should always leave those defaults when they queue?

Defaults are defaults and essentially meaningless.
A very weak argument which proves nothing.

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LordTaral
07.27.2012 , 03:23 PM | #260
Quote: Originally Posted by Okamakiri View Post
If you want to listen to to the story, then do it in Story Mode, that's what it's for. If you're holding up my HM because you're refusing to spacebar, I'll boot your *** in a heartbeat. My time is precious, not to be wasted on waiting for every new noob who stepped into Hard Mode without ever even doing Story Mode. They should just disable cinematics in Hard/Nightmare modes.
Oh man. Impatient people always make me want to watch the cinematics. Relax, it is a video game, if your time was so precious, you probably wouldn't be playing a game.

I will gladly skip if people ask me, or better yet, I usually ask if people want to skip. I will watch them if someone else is though. If I have to wait, might as well enjoy the cinematic. I refuse to let ANYONE ruin anything for me. If you are so impatient, kick them or leave, it is simple. That way they can find other people to be grouped with.