Why not B2P like GW2?

GW2= awesome
SWTOR = fail product

Very useful post with many facts and reasons backing it.

GW2 is very, very good. But it won't stop me from playing other games. I played a lot of GW1 and still maintained subs in other games.

But there has to be a reason to pay that sub. Sadly, SWTOR isn't ready for my sub money. And with all the new F2P games around, it's hard for any mmo to get my sub.

F2P is the worst model for the consumer. It ends up being more expensive than P2P because you can quickly rack up more than £10 a month's worth of garbage. Not to mention they always nickle and dime. Then there are the lockboxes you have to pay to unlock, which, interestingly, is some form of gambling, so not technically legal everywhere. Maybe someone should raise that issue.

You actually don't have to pay anything to unlock the lockboxes. Sure it's convenient to buy the keys but you can still get them out in the world if you go do so. That's your choice. So go ahead and raise the issue...because it's already been discussed many times, all it will show is basically the ignorance on your part about how the system works. You automatically assume that the cash shop has things you need in order to progress, but it doesn't. It's cosmetic and vanity...which is your choice to want or not.

Anything else in the store literally drops in the game. All you need to do is go get it.

Stop. Logic isn't allowed on the TOR forums when it comes to GW2. People just want to spread misinformation and propogate an us vs them mentaity. It's a lost cause you can't even talk about business models without TOR trolls ravaging the thread lol.

So I'll go out on a limb and say that ArenaNET is in this business to make money. So if GW2, unlike GW1, won't have paid expansions, whatever they are called, just free content updates, then they must be counting on MicroTrasactions to fund development and server maintenance.

If they sell anything meaningful so far as progression in either PvP or PvE then it becomes pay to win and could get very expensive.

If they don't I personally doubt very much whether the income from their cash shop will generate enough revenue to make meaningful improvements to the game.

Unless you're trying to tell me that ArenaNET will be releasing updates and content out of the goodness of their hearts because they love gamers?

I'd rather pay a monthly subscription fee.

You're from the future? Could I have next weeks lotto numbers as well?

dont give them to him hes rich give them to me

also if u want this game to be more like GW2 then bioware better remove all the story and VO and let you grind ala wow cause thats what youle get.