Pro-skippers, politeness will get you further

LOL!

And here we have a perfect example of the selfish ME ME ME attitude of some people. I'd vote to kick you, or I'd simply leave group. You're not nearly as important as you think you are mate.

I am a TANK.

So, Bye bye!

BTW the average time for cutscenes even with no choice option, AKA timing out the choices is clocking in at about 9 minutes total spread over an average of three dialog scenes PER RUN.

Right, this "EXCRUCIATINGLY TIME CONSUMING CUTSCENE COSTED ME A PRECIOUS 9 MINUTES, LET ME WRITE A BLOG ABOUT HOW HARD MY LIFE IS WITH THESE AWFUL CUTSCENE PEOPLE,BOO HOO WAA WAA"

The ONLY FOLKS who complain about this are impatient children, OCD Sufferers or IDIOTS.

Frankly If you are getting your feathers ruffled by a BUILT IN part of the game that is no way part of an exploit, you really need to think about your misplaced agression and anger, talk to the developers, not me, you gota a problem with how the way the game is programmed and you are going to blame another player, dont let the screen door hit you on the *** on the way out!

I mean, if you can waste 9 minutes of my time, it's only fair that I get to waste 9 minutes of yours, right?

See here is the problem.
This would make you a Griefer, and culpable/implicable in punishment when reported as such.

Here is WHY:
The game has cutscenes and a way to skip them or make them go faster.
However, the functionality of skipping the cutscene is a matter of LUXURY for players, it is not a neccesity, nor is it REQUIRED.

Therefore, If a player experiences a cutscene in group, they are fully within their rights and priveledge to see said cutscene, regardless of the feelings of other players, because of the simple fact that there is no set requirement for players to dictate or maintain a set length of play in these cutscenes.

In other words, the fact that the skip option exists, does not dictate its use, nor does it mean that those who DONT use it are "wasting" others times, because in essence, the intentional "holding back" of a group is not covered in this case as a form of griefing because the player is playing the game as it was intended.

On the other hand, when you CLEARLY STATE HERE, ON THE FORUMS, that you are going to take a stopwatch, count the minutes you considered wasted, then apply those wasted minutes to other players as "payback, retribution, etc" then you are most certainly "holding" the group back, intentionally with ill purpose toward other players, making you a griefer.

Im not saying that I DONT use the spacebar, I actually use it as much as i can, but I dont require others to use, it, I will make mention of it and what it does and let others choose to use it or not, i certainly take no umbrage to that.

But, If ANYONE decides to be rude to me for "missing" even just ONE spacebar opportunity, then I take FULL advantage of those cutscenes and the way the game was programmed to be played, and ALSO when someone is rude to me about this stuff, i all of the sudden ENJOY seeing the dialog timer bar fill up until it expires.

So what will it be?

Complain and attempt to make some statement in group about dropping because someone does or does not use a built in mechanic of a dialog option and then make yourself the target of a griefing investigation.

Or do you become polite and respectful, like you should be ALREADY and "roll with it"?

Im guessing that the folks who scream and pop a vein whenever they detect the smallest amount of delay in their precious OCD filled, square laced, guiness book of world records, timed runs.

You want timed runs, make them yourself.
You want spacebar runs, make them yourself.
You want story runs, make them yourself.
You want RP runs, make them yourself.

But DONT EVER presume that you will ever get ANYTHING LESS than what it programmed when you do group finder. If you do, if you vote kick anyone in GF for just simply playing because you forgot tha tthe group finder has no such rules, if you get your panties in such a twist that you cant possibly stand others who dont do things beyond what is required of them in the games regular group finder parameters, then you really need to step out of this situation IMMEDIATELY and get some therapy or get some REAL social time, away from the computer.

Until BW implements a way to "vote on" or "roll for votes" on cut scene skipping or implements a way for the GF to force a cutscene skip, you have absolutely no ground to stand on whatsoever demanding that they be skipped.

EDIT: But please do get off your "respectful" high horse. It is no more respectful for one player to waste other players' time in a hard mode flashpoint than it is for another player to expect his time to not be wasted.

Yep, seriously after it was even EXPLAINED to you, you still dont get it.

Let me try to use small words so you can understand.

Other players are not required to do anything above and beyond what is required of their role when they are using the group finder.

So, what that means is that since the spacebar is a luxury effect that is not required for use to finish a group finder flash point, then you have no reason to expect that of them.

You also have no reason to be rude to, condescend to, pressure, threaten with leaving (as a tank we ALL know this gets the "accused" VKd, not the tank) if they dont.

Get off your "I am the tank and i will announce i will leave if folks dont use spacebar because i am impatient" high-horse.

Bottom line is that just because the ability to skip exists, doesnt mean you are entitle to expect to being used and it also does not entitle you to announce that you are impatient/out of time/in a hurry/late for work/have a kid crying upstairs/whatever. If you dont have time for a run that is being done AS the game is programmed, AS-IS, then dont use group finder.

But I imagine you are still going to argue against what is the truth.

Truth is, when you use group finder, you are subject to the games rules, not yours.

I had a PUG run today in Black Talon with a couple of what I'll describe as immature impatient obnoxious kids, screaming in chat for me (and the fourth guy) to skip the cutscenes. Even after a few seconds of video, we were generously showered with "skip, SKIP FFS" and "SPACE you *******", which always gives other people a nice fuzzy feeling inside. (...)