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EA shareholders meeting: over/under 300k subs?

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EA shareholders meeting: over/under 300k subs?

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Sarfux
07.27.2012 , 08:46 AM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by Majestic_Jazz View Post
Does it really matter? Just play the game and enjoy it. If you don't enjoy it, stop playing and move along!
Yap! But ..some people just love confrontation and being negative.
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LarryRow
07.27.2012 , 08:47 AM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by Lionflash View Post
Are we guessing closest number without going over?

Then i'll go with 1 Subscriber, Bob.
2 subscribers

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Majestic_Jazz
07.27.2012 , 08:48 AM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
Yap! But ..some people just love confrontation and being negative.
I mean what are they trying to prove? It is over 300k or under 300k, how on Earth does this effect my game experience? I could careless really, as long as there is a substantial amount of people to keep my server busy then I am happy and lately, my server has been really busy! Warzones are faster to get into now, getting Flashpoint groups are much easier, and I am actually completing more Heroics!

I am having fun and shouldnt that be the only thing that matters?
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Sarfux
07.27.2012 , 08:52 AM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by Majestic_Jazz View Post
I mean what are they trying to prove? It is over 300k or under 300k, how on Earth does this effect my game experience? I could careless really, as long as there is a substantial amount of people to keep my server busy then I am happy and lately, my server has been really busy! Warzones are faster to get into now, getting Flashpoint groups are much easier, and I am actually completing more Heroics!

I am having fun and shouldnt that be the only thing that matters?
It doesn't effect people's gameplay experience. Some people just LOVE proven the point of "I TOLD YOU SO!!" or some thing like that. They want to see the game slowly die and prove once and for all that the game should be hated by everyone and shut down because it's not what THEY want. They LOVE seeing drop offs in numbers and crave people's ragequit threads or making the ones of their own. They LOVE drama and negativity. If they didn't, they would simply move along, like you said.
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stonelead
07.27.2012 , 08:53 AM | #205
this game is dead..... stop sending me EMAILS already about kem vahl missing me??? ***


george lucas needs to take the star wars name back.... i know i have a month or 2 left on my sub.. but i refuse to log in when it is a disapointing droll...

give me a refund and i will be the happiest jawa on tattoine...
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Goretzu
07.27.2012 , 08:55 AM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by Majestic_Jazz View Post
I mean what are they trying to prove? It is over 300k or under 300k, how on Earth does this effect my game experience? I could careless really, as long as there is a substantial amount of people to keep my server busy then I am happy and lately, my server has been really busy! Warzones are faster to get into now, getting Flashpoint groups are much easier, and I am actually completing more Heroics!

I am having fun and shouldnt that be the only thing that matters?



I think you mean you couldn't care less, however it is important, if SWTOR doesn't have a certain number of subs, it quite simply won't get any new content made for it, never mind new expansions.

Just look at what happened (and didn't happen) to Warhammer Online.
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Emeda
07.27.2012 , 08:57 AM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by Majestic_Jazz View Post
I mean what are they trying to prove? It is over 300k or under 300k, how on Earth does this effect my game experience? I could careless really, as long as there is a substantial amount of people to keep my server busy then I am happy and lately, my server has been really busy! Warzones are faster to get into now, getting Flashpoint groups are much easier, and I am actually completing more Heroics!

I am having fun and shouldnt that be the only thing that matters?
The reason your server feels busy is because of the server merge. But that did nothing to fix why people are quitting. They basically killed 190 servers so that they can add time before all the servers are empty.

If you have 200 full cups with a hole in then when they all get almost empty you pour all thats left into 26 cups to fill them up but dont fix the holes then all you are doing is prolonging the time till all the cups are empty. Yes you will think you have a full cup now but its still going to lose water until it is empty.

They had all these light servers and what 2 very heavy/full servers? then they had 20+ full servers after the transfers and now none reach full and most only reach heavy now.

You might be having fun but if they keep losing players you wont because they wont keep the game going just because you are enjoying it.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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dandamanno
07.27.2012 , 08:59 AM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
Oh so you don't have any concrete evidence, just speculation. I see... well when the EA investors page updates we can get something solid.

Also... your link it broken.
Reasonable people can draw reasonable conclusions based on information that has been collected in a scientifically acceptable manner. The numbers light, standard, heavy etc. were all collected by people who were willing to wait for the status to switch from one to the other, then log on to those servers and do a manual "/who" to count the number of people on both Republic and Imperial sides.

This was repeated many times to get a very good representation of the "light", "heavy" etc designations. It has been done both before and after the merges and they seem to be the same.

The 10% figure for the number of people logged in at any given time is an average that has been used for most mmo's for many years. Unless someone can provide a sound reason why SWTOR would buck this trend compared to other mmo's there is no valid reason to dispute it.

Using these two figures we can have a very good estimate of subscription numbers, and as was poited out earlier, when the 1.3 million figure was revealed, the estimation calculation proved to be very close to the actual figure.

If your whole point is "You have no concrete proof!" I have news for you...we already know! That's the whole point of this excercise. To make a good, educated, reasonable guess based on available data.

If you want to start a new thread entitled "No one has concrete proof on current sub numbers" I will be the first to post that you are correct.

Edit: Oh and I should add that the thread with the "estimate of concurrent logins" shows the population is stable for the past month or so. I am sure you don't want to dispute that though, do you?

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jarjarloves
07.27.2012 , 09:11 AM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
The reason your server feels busy is because of the server merge. But that did nothing to fix why people are quitting. They basically killed 190 servers so that they can add time before all the servers are empty.

If you have 200 full cups with a hole in then when they all get almost empty you pour all thats left into 26 cups to fill them up but dont fix the holes then all you are doing is prolonging the time till all the cups are empty. Yes you will think you have a full cup now but its still going to lose water until it is empty.

They had all these light servers and what 2 very heavy/full servers? then they had 20+ full servers after the transfers and now none reach full and most only reach heavy now.

You might be having fun but if they keep losing players you wont because they wont keep the game going just because you are enjoying it.
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Ok the server doesn't "feel" busy it IS busy because there are thousands of players playing.

yes the server mergers FIXED the biggest complaint people had which is the server was empty and there was no one to play with.

You are also wrong last night the servers all reached heavy/full. But keep on living in your dreamworld

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pocketthesaurus
07.27.2012 , 09:13 AM | #210
From peak time login data, I was able to extrapolate at least 638,000 subs.