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Why not B2P like GW2?


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Diktat
07.27.2012 , 08:10 AM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by Blondesolid View Post
I don't get all the sha baam about gw2, and it being the next holy grail. I've played the 1st one since it pretty much came out, along with its expansions, it was never touted as a "mmo killer", nor do I see 2 being a mmo killer.

I'm certainly going to play it though, kind of a no brainer, a sequel to a game I've been playing for years. In no delusional way what so ever do I see it competing with the king of the mountain, or even a game such as tor, with its massive budget and names behind it(Lucas, Star Wars, Bioware, those are some pretty big names!)

I'll stop ramblin', no one really gives two ***** lol.
I don't think GW2 is a MMO killer, but is something new in terms of gameplay and concept (lore appart that is the same fantasy lore we all know already).

Said that the point of this thread is B2P (not f2p), GW2's business model, vs P2P, SWTOR's business model, and if B2P could be a good for SWTOR.

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kevlarto
07.27.2012 , 08:11 AM | #142
I dunno Guild wars 1 and 2 both felt a little cheesy to me, they did not have the feel of a AAA mmo, I just shruged it off as the buy to play model, they seemed to lack features I am used to, but thats just me my own thought.
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Valkirus
07.27.2012 , 08:26 AM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by Erasimus View Post
So I'll go out on a limb and say that ArenaNET is in this business to make money. So if GW2, unlike GW1, won't have paid expansions, whatever they are called, just free content updates, then they must be counting on MicroTrasactions to fund development and server maintenance.

If they sell anything meaningful so far as progression in either PvP or PvE then it becomes pay to win and could get very expensive.

If they don't I personally doubt very much whether the income from their cash shop will generate enough revenue to make meaningful improvements to the game.

Unless you're trying to tell me that ArenaNET will be releasing updates and content out of the goodness of their hearts because they love gamers?

I'd rather pay a monthly subscription fee.
Well..keep this in mind. Thier first MMO GW was successful with the model it used. Enough so they came out with expansions and had enough funds to make a second GW. So I think they allready know it will work and be profitable. They may not have the overhead some companies have. Like the hungry overseers who want thier share of the action.
Trust is something which is earned.

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belizar
07.27.2012 , 08:36 AM | #144
Quote: Originally Posted by kevlarto View Post
I dunno Guild wars 1 and 2 both felt a little cheesy to me, they did not have the feel of a AAA mmo, I just shruged it off as the buy to play model, they seemed to lack features I am used to, but thats just me my own thought.
u mean the same features swtor missed to last month ? lol swtor isnt a triple a title maybe if it have been in dev until now and released end of q3/4 this year would have been a big hit

swtor laucnhed with bugs performace issues death nail load screens repeative questing
now look at swtor now still bugs still performance issues and still long *** load screens this isnt a console game but it loads and plays like one its like playskool made a my 1st mmo

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Listerman
07.27.2012 , 08:36 AM | #145
I wonder if the Guild Wars 2 forums has to put up with crap like this.
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Thaltom
07.27.2012 , 08:42 AM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by Listerman View Post
I wonder if the Guild Wars 2 forums has to put up with crap like this.
They do. All MMOs have to put up with this. Only MMOs that have been around for 2+ years get a slight reprieve but even then trolls still wander their GD.
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Listerman
07.27.2012 , 08:44 AM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
They do. All MMOs have to put up with this. Only MMOs that have been around for 2+ years get a slight reprieve but even then trolls still wander their GD.
Hell, I think ALL gaming forums get this.
I was in the trenches at the Bethesda Softworks forums during the pre-production of New Vegas and Skyrim. Man you wanna talk about ugly.
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stonelead
07.27.2012 , 08:54 AM | #148
GW2= awesome
SWTOR = fail product
Look at the size of that thing

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spectreclees
07.27.2012 , 09:12 AM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by stonelead View Post
GW2= awesome
SWTOR = fail product
Very useful post with many facts and reasons backing it.

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kitsinni
07.27.2012 , 09:44 AM | #150
Post 30 about F2P in the last 2 days .. man these mods are on top of this stuff!
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