EA shareholders meeting: over/under 300k subs?

Please do not make stuff up, lying doesn't make you look good.

GW2 has 2-3x's the content of TOR not the other way around. The starting zone for 1 race takes about 10 hours to clear. There are 5 of these. SWTOR starter worlds take about 2 hours, and there are 4 of them. and the capital planets (2 of them) take about 6 hours. We can continue to extrapolate this out but it gets worse and worse for TOR especially since you can continue to level in any zone you want, the content never becomes obsolete.

Also GW2 is launching with 12 dungeon paths at max level, 32 total. How many dungeons and raids combined does TOR have?

TOR does have 8-16 man content, GW2 is not doing that, they are sticking to smaller groups for instances, however there are large group dynamic events that take 20+ people to do at higher levels, so I guess you could call that a raid, though you don't need a guild and you don't need to spam 3-4 hours for that last tank or healer, which makes them much shorter.

Got the link for that info? Because nothing has been posted here yet...
Glad to have your sub. I just want you to know how much we appreciate you contributing to the cause. Good on you.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...&highlight=top

The numbers you can check if you want

using the medium for each server status as
light 500
standard 1500
heavy 2500
very heavy 3000
full 3500

Asia
1.3 average
450+350=800*3-2400

EU
1.87 average
1305+65=1370*11=15070

NA
2.13 average
325+1305=1630*12=19560

Total
2400+15070+19560=37030*10=370,300

Thanks for making me check. In my math I did 16 NA servers instead of 12 (corrected it with the above numbers so instead of 435,500 ots

370,300

that again is counting the F2P players and the data still including people that came back to try the server merges making it slightly higher than it is.

EDIT. I didnt make up the formulas other people did. I just used the numbers and when it was done back when they said 1.3 it was close to being accurate to work with that back then.

Oh so you don't have any concrete evidence, just speculation. I see... well when the EA investors page updates we can get something solid.

Also... your link it broken.

No I dont have anything concrete. Its imposible to have concrete evidence without breaking into EA/Bioware to steal it.

But as I said before using torstatus and the linked post formula and going back to when they said they had 1.3 million subs those numbers were considered acurate to get the 1.3 million back then. So it is safe to say that the same formula would also work today.

Do you believe everything you hear from someone who wants money from you?

They will not be solid this time. The 3 month and 6 month subbers who have canceled will still be counted as active. Mine does not run out until Aug 17th and I have canceled and donot play anymore. But mine will be encluded in the figures.

The community knew the 1.3mil sub number was accurate because EA publicly stated it was. I don't recall seeing any threads where the community predicted the 1.3mil sub number before EA announced it If you have one please let me know.

Neither here nor there really because your formula can't take into account subscriptions that login infrequently. Not to be argumentative

Are you not listening? I said after they announced the 1.3 someone (think it was the OP of the link I posted) used the numbers that they currently had back then and came out with a number close to 1.3 million. See they gave you the answer and when your formula came to be about the same number (as it has also been for many other game) that verifies that the formula is close to accurate and can be used to get an estimate.

The 10% takes those players into account. It had worked in other games to be close to accurate so there is no reason to believe that it wouldnt for this game. You know all the people that log in infrequently there are also people that log in every day for 4+ hours. Thats why they use averages over 2 weeks.

Close to accurate? Not sure that qualifies as a citable source.

10%? Where does that number come from? I've heard that figure used to describe Eve Online's logins to subscriptions ratio but it was explained that is very much an estimation and shouldn't be treated as concrete. My guess is that subs are 750,000 +/- 100,000 subs, I don't back that up with formulas because the formulas won't be accurate.

Emeda is correct and the formula used by her/him is a lot more accurate than the highly political one EA will use. 370, 300 sounds about right. It takes into account the % of players who logon. 10% of the total sub base is pretty accurate. The only solid subs EA would reveal is if they say....as of now, end of July, we have these many subs. But even that will be infected with the 6 month subbers who have canceled but still counted.