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Dungeon finder woes...


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uniz
07.16.2012 , 03:15 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Ragico View Post
Let me start by saying that I love the dungeon finder. It has added more of an "instant action" feel to the game and allows easy access to FPs and even Ops...but at the same time I hate the system so much. I regularly queue as a healer Op with my Jugg tank friend for hard modes, so the only thing we need are two "competent" DPS people. Oh boy are they so hard to find. My ignore list is full of quite a few names, not because they couldn't crank out the numbers but simply because they insulted me and blamed me for hitting the enrage timers "*** healer?" "omg no heals?" .

Add to that them refusing to accept the fact that the reason we hit enrage timers on 20% is because the DPS is not there...hell someone even called me a crappy tank, pointed out I was the healer they then simply called me a crappy healer. /facepalm

I give people chances, explain the tactics for anyone who is new but it just seems like nobody listens. I guess in a way another reason I enjoy the dungeon finder is that it lets me know who the "bads" are and I can safely put them in my ignore list.

TLDR: DPS only have to do damage and maybe one CC while not standing in crap...is that so hard compared to tanking and healing?
i have to agree with you some what on this.

usually i do hms with only my guildies. but as more are reaching 50 i am doing more and more partial guild groups and pugs with my geared out toons for the bh coms. this allows more guildies to do select runs that they can COMPLETE for gear. that being said we have run into a few dps recently that are rather mindlessly running ahead, aoeing everything , not ccing, breaking cc, not using any deagro abilities and not healing them self after a encounter.

all i can say is just thank god dps meters work the way they do now and not like they do in other games. this problem would only be worse if they did.

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Rompdomp
07.18.2012 , 02:24 PM | #12
On Correllia Run almost all of my random groups besides maybe 1 or 2 have been fine. Hell most of the time they are down right fast. If anything I'd say the T-1 HM's are too easy. They remind me too much of running heroics at the end of WOTLK.

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Jandoon
07.26.2012 , 02:38 PM | #13
Been running the group finder pretty frequently the last two weeks (guessing in the range of at least 20 runs), gearing up a new alt. I would say the vast majority of runs have been good to great, and not once have I seen any name calling or yelling.

Yesterday I got paired with a tank that didn't focus on picking up any adds apart from the one he was shooting at, caused several wipes due to not know mechanics on bosses, and in general was setting a really slow pace. Thought I'd see a *****torm of angry name calling. But nope! No complaining whatsoever, even though we had quite a few wipes. Just a bunch of friendly remarks and some advice on how to deal with the encounters. Just a sample of two guys, I know, but that was pretty heart warming in this day and age.

On the note of woes, I've tried queuing for OPs over the last two days, this doesn't seem to work too well (currently been sitting in queue for 5 hours without a run starting, EU prime time). I guess people in general aren't interested, but the system is also a bit prone to abuse. Seems to be a severe lack of tanks and healers, which means their queues are close to instant. A couple of hours ago my queue started popping, just to have it say that a potential group member has declined. That was repeated a few times, and I could see it was the same tank or healer (not sure which one of them) that never hit ready. Guess it's not too much of an issue, but it's a bit annoying to be spammed by that big window for 10 minutes knowing the run won't start anyway.

Another, bigger issue I have is that you can't group while in queue. If BW could work out a way for us to do whatever we please while waiting in queue I think it would make more people use it.

Also, 2 minutes time to accept an invite almost makes me afraid to zone, with the loading times this game has.

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Flaminica
07.26.2012 , 03:09 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Jandoon View Post
Been running the group finder pretty frequently the last two weeks (guessing in the range of at least 20 runs), gearing up a new alt. I would say the vast majority of runs have been good to great, and not once have I seen any name calling or yelling.
I've been leveling a healing Op in the groupfinder and this has been largely my experience. After dozens of runs, my ignore list has only three names - one ragequitter and two griefers. I won't ignore someone for being undergeared, inexperienced or even incompetent. All those things can be fixed.
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legionof
07.26.2012 , 04:31 PM | #15
overall I've had a positive experience with the finder. Probably the worst ive had was a derpy dps in full campaign that was just doing auto attacks in a kp run. one votekick later run back on track. also one rage quit before a SM false emp run had even gotten in gear. fellow thought we couldn't manage it with coulmni or better gear.

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Rktina
07.26.2012 , 05:55 PM | #16
Been using GF for quite a while now and never had a bad run excapt for one time when we got a Bounty Hunter who didn't bother participating in any fights. VK and bring in one Ashara instead - no problem.

And the most epic situation when doing SM KP with most of the pug being the first time, there is this Bounty Hunter who has the worst gear of all (some 15 k HP) just runs towards Jarg and Zorno and fires of a Death from Above - Epic and all of the pug thought it was quite funny.. A given wipe since everyone focused on one of them first. Then some tactics reminding and next attempt both drop within 2-3 seconds.

I also kind of enjoy reckless DPS when doing FPs since it demands more from the tank (me) and, with the exception of LI HM, they're all quite easy anyway.

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Flaminica
07.26.2012 , 07:07 PM | #17
Most epic moments for me are both in Cademimu. Once when the tank jumped in too soon and locked both DPSers out of the fight, leaving the Powertech and myself to successfully two-man Ortol. The other was when two teammates, one DPS and the tank, both dropped after the initial fight and the Sniper and I cleared the first two bosses with a pair of Kaliyos before we got a replacement tank for the last fight.
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AshlaBoga
07.26.2012 , 07:41 PM | #18
So in a group of 4 people where all 4 stayed alive until enrage they blamed the healer for the enrage?



Human stupidity is infinite apparently.
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RandomXChance
07.26.2012 , 10:20 PM | #19
For the most part my experiences in running the SM ops and Tier 1 FP have been fine. Sometimes things go wrong or you get the occasional tool, but really not a big deal.

Lost Island, on the other hand, is an absolute nightmare. People jump in and have never run it and never watched a video of it. Come on people, it is Tier 2 for a reason. The other day was on my tank. Rakata/Black Hole gearer. Got to the first mini-boss that does huge spike damage. Jumped in, activated defensive attacks, hit both cooldowns. As soon as second CD expired, health dropped until I was dead. Oh, lets blame the tank who was getting no heals for the wipe. Uh, adds are dead, tank has aggro full time on boss. Why is healer doing nothing but heal tank? No one else should be taking damage, and if moron DPS are taking damage, screw them for being idiots.

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unixbomber
07.27.2012 , 07:04 AM | #20
Had a merc healer using all light armor, willpower gear. Rolled need on an item drop over an assassin "for the heals..." lol.... Had a sentinel roll need on two cunning items over an scoundrel another night. Good times, good laughs.