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Why not B2P like GW2?


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LibertySol
07.26.2012 , 01:09 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by lafr View Post
Yes, I wanna bet. You should read the original interview, not a copy paste from the text made by joystick.com. Forbes isn't the source for games news and they even get the trouble to investigate the truth about this interview.
I followed the sources and you're still wrong.

The article states: "Gibeau stressed that EA will continue to evaluate the business around Star Wars and implement changes as needed, so free-to-play isn't out of the question at all (indeed, BioWare recently said as much too)."

Here's another article: "While Emmanuel Lusinchi was discussing whether Old Republic could transition to other business models, we misquoted the lead designer in the original post. Lusinchi did not explicitly use the words “free-to-play” but did answer a question about the possibility of The Old Republic going free-to-play by saying “we are looking into everything.”

So what does that say? It says that they recognize that F2P is a big thing, they never explicity said no, and they are intenionally vague on the subject. That means the possibility of TOR going free to play is very real. Obviously not confirmed like some people seem to think but its very possible and BioWare/Ea are looking into it.

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TalonSaber
07.26.2012 , 01:09 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Briq View Post
IT'S NOT A RUMOR.. it has been actively looked at by people at EA/BW.. are you really that dense? can you read?

and don't confuse my argument as saying it's 100% going to happen.. I wont pretend to speculate on the inner workings of EA/BW. but also don't stick your head in the sand and act as if it isn't being addressed/considered by EA/BW.
Yes full F2P is a rumor !! it really is . Did i say they were not looking into it no i did not. will they expand upon the free trial i would assume so. will they add a fluff store most likely , but it would be a huge mistake for a company like EA/BW to make this game F2P which would not fix any of the problems the player base has with the game

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lafr
07.26.2012 , 01:10 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Briq View Post
“We are looking at free-to-play, but I can’t tell you in much detail. We have to be flexible and adapt to what is going on,” BioWare Lead Designer Emmanuel Lusinchi said recently

now read that again...in nearly every language, that's called a direct quote.
it's not speculation, it's a direct quote from someone in authority at BW.

deny that.

again I say that nowhere does it say it's going to happen, but don't be an idiot and ignore the very basic fact that it's on the table for consideration at some level..
I'll not comment on joystik text. Read the original at gameindustry and we can talk.

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Briq
07.26.2012 , 01:10 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by lafr View Post
btw

"We're going to be in the business from a long term standpoint so absolutely we're going to embrace free access, free trial, ultimately some day we can move in and embrace that model. It's all a matter of timing and thinking things through. We have a great business right now and we're not looking to make any abrupt changes."

From: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...ecade-from-now

See? Better than Forbes.
see? from the article you posted...
Quote:
Gibeau stressed that EA will continue to evaluate the business around Star Wars and implement changes as needed, so free-to-play isn't out of the question at all (indeed, BioWare recently said as much too).
that's ok son, keep fighting the good fight

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cshouston
07.26.2012 , 01:12 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by AshlaBoga View Post
Well technically both of you are correct. There's no really not much end game content in the BETA (Explorable 5 Man Dungeons are pretty much Tier 1.5 Flashpoints) but that's because they're saving it for the actual release.

Zhaitan the Elder Dragon with the power of Undeath? He's only available to fight after the game goes live.

As far as World Bosses go, the Fire Elemental seemed pretty well done. I'd say easier than Nightmare Pilgrim but way harder than Gargath or PD - which is saying something for Beta content.
Thank you for the breath of sanity in this thread. There's tons of PvE "endgame" content, it's just not endgame as in WoW/SWTOR which is actually a welcome change. That model is evidently starting to die out.
* World 3rd Tier Ⅰ Nightmare 16m * World 1st Tier Ⅱ Hard 8m *

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Briq
07.26.2012 , 01:12 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by lafr View Post
I'll not comment on joystik text. Read the original at gameindustry and we can talk.
just stop son.. you've already lost

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LibertySol
07.26.2012 , 01:14 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Nyoro View Post
Did you read what you posted? Are there concerns? Yes because no popular MMO has done this model before. ArenaNet has said there will be content updates hopefully every month. There is no endgame in the normal sense of the word but people aren't talking about that. When people say it has a lack of endgame content it means when they get to 80 they won't have anything fun or interesting to do which isn't true. They also think that no 10 man instanced raids means no PvE content which is again completely false.

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lafr
07.26.2012 , 01:15 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Briq View Post
just stop son.. you've already lost
Did I lost anything?

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cshouston
07.26.2012 , 01:16 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Nyoro View Post
Well, to quote the same article...

Quote:
For example, if raiding appeals to you because of the large number of players involved, or because of the "epic" feel of fighting massive bosses, then dynamic events are exactly what you want. Conversely, if raiding appeals to you because of the challenge—the difficulty of the encounters and the requirements of preparation and teamwork—then explorable mode dungeons will provide you with these things.

If however you absolutely must have all of these characteristics within a single type of content, then Guild Wars 2 most likely will not be for you, at least in this respect.
It has tons of positive things to say about the available content. And the cherry on top? The world is VIBRANT AND ALIVE. Everywhere you go, there's wildlife, NPCs going about their lives, chatting with one another, and the world is DENSE with content. Compare it to the sterile, lifeless worlds of SWTOR.
* World 3rd Tier Ⅰ Nightmare 16m * World 1st Tier Ⅱ Hard 8m *

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ChazDoit
07.26.2012 , 01:16 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
More than half of development will go towards said vanity items instead of content and expansions.

No, still think I'd prefer paying $60 + $15/month sub fee.
Sorry, I have to say this like in every post, but we're not getting anything for the $15, only the privilige of playing their game.