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EA/BW - I urge you to go F2P


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Daethorz
07.26.2012 , 09:12 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by eclipce View Post
I belive the F2P model is the future if implemented right, and by that I mean that there should be tons and tons of possibilities so you can cater to everyones need - does not include pay2win, that is a big no no

I think GW2, their business model and how they have designed their game is the future and i hope they succeed as I hope TSW will succeed (new and facinating character development), just to break the infernal-theme-park-choked-to-death-follow-they-yellow-road-daily-end-game-crap! / Bioware, dare to be differant, I double-dare you in the name of gaming and as a player who like to shape up my own content and immerse my self within the Star Wars "Galaxy"

However.. EA/BW you have to implement tons and tons of features right away, so get

From -my- PoV these points would bring in tons of cash to EA and BioWare
- in no particular order:

- Extra character slots
- Extra Legacy slot on same server
- Legacy features / unlocks (Bank / Vault, "housing": Capital Ships, Bunkers, Space Stations etc)
- Unique Orange Cloth / Armor Pieces
- Improved workstation (convert piece to bound to legacy and remove class restriction)
- Cloth / Armor Dye
- Dual Spec
- Mounts
- Pets
- New playable species
- Character Customization!!!
- Legacy characters as companions
- Ships: Freighters, Transports, Starfighters, Gunboats + IMPORTANT: exterior and Interior design!
- Smuggler / Agent, Trooper / Bounty Hunter as "universal" classes
- Unique universal companion packages
- Force Power Dye (tired of the fantasy-ish crap.. gold/yellow and purple.. really, BioWare? )
- Unlock Out of Combat regenration emotes to legacy
- Unlock Cybernetics (+1 new pieces) for all species
- Legacy Commendation tab "one commendation to rule them all"
- Set-Bonus vendor (re-think how to implement the stats, Cyber and Bio-implants is a good start imho)

this just the top of my head, I would buy most of these features over time- some I would cash out right away
- ps: arguably a lot of these features should be handed to us for free or traded for ingame currency
- pps: if you EA/BW reads this, please remove expertise from gear.. use valor or whatever.. but not gear.
You forgot a few things:
God Gear
God Powers
Ability to log in within 10 minutes (Massive Server Ques)

Honestly, ill quit if its anything more than Gw2 level cash shop, and never come back, even if they did everything on my suggestion list exactly how i wanted it.
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eclipce
07.26.2012 , 09:13 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by dkangl View Post
Yup just another thread where the people with money get all the cool stuff while the poorer people get shafted.... Take your 1% and shove off you are not wanted here.
you pay your rl cash already, the only difference is that you can spent the exact samea mount ever month and buy what you want - want to buy more or less, well that is up to you.
"you cannot kill what you did not create"

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ripster
07.26.2012 , 09:14 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Jedlosson View Post
For example, look at Everquest II, it turned into f2p model and now you have to pay even for equipping a high level sword or armor piece. Similar goes for DDO - now you have to pay to get access to quests, auction house, race unlocks etc...

If you were to sum up all the money you would have to pay to get the "full version" of the game in f2p model, you would see that you would not have to pay this amount of money even if you payed for 5 years subscription in classic model.
If you want access to that much of the game then pay the $15 a month they offer just like SWTOR. The free version is for people who don't require all the same content or services, the casual market, not the hardcore who get confused and forget there is a $15 a month and then go pay $15 a month somewhere else.

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Daethorz
07.26.2012 , 09:14 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by eclipce View Post
you pay your rl cash already, the only difference is that you can spent the exact samea mount ever month and buy what you want - want to buy more or less, well that is up to you.
And once again we cater to the rich, if you are a rich mofo with thousands hanging around to waste on a videogame suddenly you become the most powerful swtor player and noone can compete with you unless they spend that much money too.

Sorry, P2W Model would kill swtor and piss on its body, and personally i think SWTOR is better than that, it just needs a little elbow Grease.
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Styxx
07.26.2012 , 09:15 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by eclipce View Post
you pay your rl cash already, the only difference is that you can spent the exact samea mount ever month and buy what you want - want to buy more or less, well that is up to you.
Uh..uh.. so in a Guild, you get players that bought one op and some that didn`t... so, if you want to put them all inside one op.. ALL must buy it.. yes... "want to buy more or less, well that is up to you" at its finest...

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Daethorz
07.26.2012 , 09:20 AM | #36
P2W would Destroy Swtor.
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Elmillia
07.26.2012 , 09:21 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by eclipce View Post
I belive the F2P model is the future if implemented right, and by that I mean that there should be tons and tons of possibilities so you can cater to everyones need - does not include pay2win, that is a big no no

I think GW2, their business model and how they have designed their game is the future and i hope they succeed as I hope TSW will succeed (new and facinating character development), just to break the infernal-theme-park-choked-to-death-follow-they-yellow-road-daily-end-game-crap! / Bioware, dare to be differant, I double-dare you in the name of gaming and as a player who like to shape up my own content and immerse my self within the Star Wars "Galaxy"

However.. EA/BW you have to implement tons and tons of features right away, so get

From -my- PoV these points would bring in tons of cash to EA and BioWare
- in no particular order:

- Extra character slots
- Extra Legacy slot on same server
- Legacy features / unlocks (Bank / Vault, "housing": Capital Ships, Bunkers, Space Stations etc)
- Unique Orange Cloth / Armor Pieces
- Improved workstation (convert piece to bound to legacy and remove class restriction)
- Cloth / Armor Dye
- Dual Spec
- Mounts
- Pets
- New playable species
- Character Customization!!!
- Legacy characters as companions
- Ships: Freighters, Transports, Starfighters, Gunboats + IMPORTANT: exterior and Interior design!
- Smuggler / Agent, Trooper / Bounty Hunter as "universal" classes
- Unique universal companion packages
- Force Power Dye (tired of the fantasy-ish crap.. gold/yellow and purple.. really, BioWare? )
- Unlock Out of Combat regenration emotes to legacy
- Unlock Cybernetics (+1 new pieces) for all species
- Legacy Commendation tab "one commendation to rule them all"
- Set-Bonus vendor (re-think how to implement the stats, Cyber and Bio-implants is a good start imho)

this just the top of my head, I would buy most of these features over time- some I would cash out right away
- ps: arguably a lot of these features should be handed to us for free or traded for ingame currency
- pps: if you EA/BW reads this, please remove expertise from gear.. use valor or whatever.. but not gear.
Absolutely not. F2P is a worthless system that has no future. Going F2P will kill SWTOR.
SWTOR is a MORPG. Multiplayer online Roleplaying game.

There is nothing Massively about it.

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Whiteis
07.26.2012 , 09:27 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by ripster View Post
That was what the $60 was for. What are you getting for $15 other than access to the game you already paid $60 for? Whatever it is is being offered by plenty of competition for free, which makes it a tough sell in todays market. This isn't 2002 anymore and people are wising up.
Except the service. Do you think it is free to run servers/update content/provide security/ customer support is all just a free handout from the universe? No they have to pay ppl to keep all that stuff running smoothly, Which is where our money goes. Id rather have to pay $15> for a service than $15< for the same items skills.

F2P is not the way.

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eclipce
07.26.2012 , 09:27 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Daethorz View Post
And once again we cater to the rich, if you are a rich mofo with thousands hanging around to waste on a videogame suddenly you become the most powerful swtor player and noone can compete with you unless they spend that much money too.

Sorry, P2W Model would kill swtor and piss on its body, and personally i think SWTOR is better than that, it just needs a little elbow Grease.
you should read the original post, there is nothing there about p2w.. except that I said it was a no no
"you cannot kill what you did not create"

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Whiteis
07.26.2012 , 09:30 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by eclipce View Post
you should read the original post, there is nothing there about p2w.. except that I said it was a no no
But it is nearly impossible to have a F2P game that isnt P2W. Any game that claims that does not know the meaning of Free.