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Maybe free to play is a good thing

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Maybe free to play is a good thing

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Alavastre
07.26.2012 , 08:20 AM | #21
SWTOR isn't going F2P any time soon. When that quote was taken out of context, they mean free until level 15, a trial account. Most major MMO's do this.

And of course the people behind the business would consider all models, that is their job. But I doubt they've given up on SWTOR this quickly. From how it's playing now, i think it's an excellent game, worthy of 15 dollars a month. At least for me.
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Darth-Piranha
07.26.2012 , 08:32 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Xiahoufig View Post
I believe most sub-based games take into consideration maintenance in their fees, which is why they're $14.99 a month as opposed to say $19.99 a month. Unexpected maintenances are a different matter.

I do not agree that you should be creditied for issues outside of BW's control, primarily because nothing else in the real world works that way. If your T.V. is stolen you still have to pay your cable bill (unless you cancel), you drop your cellphone in the toilet still need to pay that bill (and a new phone to boot since most insurances don't cover water damage), someone steals your credit card you still need to pay that bill, car breaks down you still have to pay for the insurance while it's in the shop (depending on the laws in your state. PA requires insurance on vehicles at all times.)...
In other words We should just continue allowing ourselves to get ripped off - gotcha .
After all its only $15 A month, who cares if we're only getting about $4 or $5 dollars of actual playtime out of it.
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kevlarto
07.26.2012 , 08:34 AM | #23
gw2 is not really free to play, it is buy and play, (yes you don't have to pay after that), you buy the box you get the whole game to play, you use the store for fluff items if the company holds true to it's word.

Free to play, really is named wrong it should be called pay as you go, yes you get to download the game for free you get to play though a small area for free, but if you want to expand beyond what they offer free you pay, thus the pay as you go. As far as i know there are no free to play games made by an american developer that is pay to win thats just a load of bantha poodo, asian games on the other hand yes.

Lotro, DDO, two game that are making more money now then when they launched due to the hybrid f2p model they use.

There are a ton of free to play style games world wide, I was amazed out how many game are out there, browser based games, they are free to play as well, and if you ever go over to Bigpoint's site and look at the amount of games and how many people are online at that time will blow you away. The Clone Wars from Sony that's an expensive free to play game if you don't watch you wallet, it's a kids game, I guess those kiddies are working over mon and dad to buy them some points...

I read somwhere free to play games only need like 3 to 5% of the total player base to buy things once in awhile, take a silly game like maple story at one time it had 72 million users registered, one in every three houses in Korea had a maple story account, if 3 to 5% of those folks were buying thats a huge cash flow. I know allot of these game no one here could careless about, but it's a business fact, the sub based mmo is a dying breed soon to go the way of the dino. The big bang for free to play will be when wow makes the switch,and they will, the blizz suits have already stated that as soon as f2p is more profitable than subs they will switch.

Good thing bad thing depends on what side of the fence your on, for me if it is a game that I want to play I don't care what the pay model is, I know at some point our choices on how we pay will be very limited.
If Tor goes free to play, will not suprise me, I kinda expect it to, I will have to wait an see..
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Vankris
07.26.2012 , 08:35 AM | #24
Concretely

What would free to play bring me as player?
How would free to play enhance my gaming experience?

I am willing to have an open mind, but in my little understanding of MMO games, new PVE and PVP content are financed by the subscription. No subcription, no new (free) content.

Unless player are forced (coerced) some way to spend an equivalent amount of money. But who would such a model benefit me.
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jgoldsack
07.26.2012 , 08:35 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth-Piranha View Post
In other words We should just continue allowing ourselves to get ripped off - gotcha .
After all its only $15 A month, who cares if we're only getting about $4 or $5 dollars of actual playtime out of it.
Because thats how me make the real world spin ^^
I look at it this way.

I would end up paying $15+ to go to the movies for ~2 hours.

I pay $15 here, and get over 40 hours of gametime a month (and that's not even 2 hours a day).

I think I get my $15 worth of entertainment.
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Alavastre
07.26.2012 , 08:43 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth-Piranha View Post
In other words We should just continue allowing ourselves to get ripped off - gotcha .
After all its only $15 A month, who cares if we're only getting about $4 or $5 dollars of actual playtime out of it.
Because thats how me make the real world spin ^^
Uh, apparently it's not a waste because you're paying that price. If you thought it was, you wouldn't pay to play the game. You're not forced to play a video game, and there is no logical way you can make the valid argument that you're getting ripped off when you're actively paying for something.
Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. – Thomas Jefferson

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Darth-Piranha
07.26.2012 , 08:46 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by jgoldsack View Post
I look at it this way.

I would end up paying $15+ to go to the movies for ~2 hours.

I pay $15 here, and get over 40 hours of gametime a month (and that's not even 2 hours a day).

I think I get my $15 worth of entertainment.
use netflix instead (cheaper) or better yet the PB (free)

Quote: Originally Posted by Alavastre View Post
Uh, apparently it's not a waste because you're paying that price. If you thought it was, you wouldn't pay to play the game. You're not forced to play a video game, and there is no logical way you can make the valid argument that you're getting ripped off when you're actively paying for something.
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dalekjs
07.26.2012 , 08:49 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by PainOfDemise View Post
This game is actually bringing on changes quite quickly compared to a lot of other MMO's. So that leads me to, what other MMO's have you played besides this one?
Last time they added content was in mid April, and that was soured with every class getting nerfed. So, new content every four months is good? Why would that justify 15 dollars a month?

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Alavastre
07.26.2012 , 08:51 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth-Piranha View Post
use netflix instead (cheaper) or better yet the PB (free)



FAIL
That is funny, go read an economics book, or any for that matter.

In this instance, it is an easy fix, leave if you don't like it. Have the balls to back up your statements.
Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. – Thomas Jefferson

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dalekjs
07.26.2012 , 08:54 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by kevlarto View Post
gw2 is not really free to play, it is buy and play, (yes you don't have to pay after that), you buy the box you get the whole game to play, you use the store for fluff items if the company holds true to it's word.

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I believe they will. ArenaNet has been doing pretty well with this model for 7 years already with GW1.

On topic, I don't see why BW wouldn't make the game buy to play. Pay 60 dollars for the disk/download, and then have it without monthly fees. Surely it would be a better option than what we have now, and as much as this game has flaws, I think it might still be worth a one time purchase.