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Pro-skippers, politeness will get you further

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Styxx
07.26.2012 , 07:14 AM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by Xiahoufig View Post
Yeah, you're right for the most part. I think the topic in general is about those who only do one or the other without any regard to what anyone may want. I think the best way to deal with a 2/2 split is then base it on the FP. If it's a relatively short one, then just go with the dialogue but if it's a longer one, then skip.
Well, in all honesty, for a 2/2 split, there is really only one way to do it : be sensible, or apply common sense = don`t be a douche and don`t "take hostage" the flashpoint. It might work, or you just draw the 2 shortest tempers on the server and you got kicked.. or anything inbetween. Or, in plain english = think how you`d feel if you`d be in their shoes.

Luckily.. there are not as many "heroes" ingame as they are on the Forums... or I haven`t met them yet.

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Xiahoufig
07.26.2012 , 07:24 AM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
Well, in all honesty, for a 2/2 split, there is really only one way to do it : be sensible, or apply common sense = don`t be a douche and don`t "take hostage" the flashpoint. It might work, or you just draw the 2 shortest tempers on the server and you got kicked.. or anything inbetween. Or, in plain english = think how you`d feel if you`d be in their shoes.

Luckily.. there are not as many "heroes" ingame as they are on the Forums... or I haven`t met them yet.
Agreed. The number of people who use the forums are significantly smaller compared to those who just play the game. "Forum Warriors" are typically just that and usually end up on my ignore list. I've yet to run into a rude and belligerent player in game (even in PvP) and I've been here since Day 1 of early access.
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LaVolpex
07.26.2012 , 07:25 AM | #183
my spacebar is broken, deal with it
:P

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Lorica
07.26.2012 , 07:30 AM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by MasterKayote View Post
QFT!!!!

Cutscenes are part of the experience and only add 5 or 10 minutes... if someone want to do it let them.

Also OP, you want a new way to piss them off? Start screaming to skip as well. Its freakin hilarious when all 4 people are in full caps trying to figure out whats going on. Even had a guy convinced it must have bugged or something. Not much of a stretch considering Biowares track record.
100% agree. Just think, if the kids took their time, they wouldn't have finished all 8 slots and be bored to tears for the Level 50 daily grind.

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MasterKayote
07.26.2012 , 07:34 AM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
You being one that refuses to spacebar against 3 that do is selfish too. It can go both ways.
Selfish: concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others.

Yeah, ok, I can see how non-skippers can be argued as being selfish, but lets further analyse. As I said before, most of the time I skip, seen it before, yadda yadda. However, unlike some ... I dont give people a hard time for wanting to see cutscenes for reasons mentioned before. I guess you can say I have some "regard" for others. Somehow I doubt your reasons for skipping have anything to do with "well the others want to skip too."

Im pretty sure you'd appreciate that if for whatever reason you woke up one day wanting to remember what Malgus says at the end of FE.


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Also, that game experience you paid for can be found in Story Mode Flashpoints. When you refuse to spacebar as a minority, well, you are dictating how MY money are spent, by interfering with MY time.

I`ll reiterate: If you saw it 5 times already, well, you are arguing over principle and not over content. So, which one is it?
A) You and I both know the Spacebar harrassment happens in all modes. Either way 5 minutes watching cutscenes, and getting gear you need vs. 30 to an hour fighting through an FP you dont need anything from because dailies drop way better mods, I believe the answer is simple. Not to mention how Story Mode indicates nothing more than its difficulty.

B) Youre there for gear, comms , or other reasons. We have the added pleasure of wanting to enjoy the cutscenes. With us so called "selfish" people, everyone gets what they want, YOU on the other hand, want to block off others to save yourself a few extra minutes.

C) Youre playing a video game. Any way you look at it youre wasting time. That "youre wasting my time" argument is laughable at best, specially when you consider that all but one flashpoint has a grand total of about 5 minutes to it.

D) The cuts scenes are part of the gameplay. We arent watching a movie, we're playing and interacting with the characters, replying to there words, and competing against others to speak. It isnt just watching, its playing, which is why we're all here, to play the game. Not that it even matters since plenty of people like to watch things multiple times, be it movies, sitcoms, or pictures. And if youre participating in that enjoyment with others no one has the right to demand they skip it. When youre watching Star Wars for the 20th time with friends, do you demand they skip to the good action parts? Neither do I.

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Spatology
07.26.2012 , 07:35 AM | #186
people dont space bar? i tab out and do something else. Then they are waiting on me.....

People act rude or need on Bio alloy's? I ignore them and they dont get the priviledge to group with me again, simple as that.

Wanna watch the cutscene's and enjoy the story? Please, do that on your own time. You are in a random group of people who are trying to complete an objective together. This isnt you and your guild having a good ole' time. Wake up and play, or, dont que for group finder....simple.

Also, if you wanna watch the story, consider forming your own group in general chat?

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MasterKayote
07.26.2012 , 07:36 AM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by LaVolpex View Post
my spacebar is broken, deal with it
:P
Hahaha! Oh that would be hilarious.

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Holden_Dissent
07.26.2012 , 07:37 AM | #188
I'm still trying to figure out what a Pro-skipper is?

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Xiahoufig
07.26.2012 , 07:42 AM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by Spatology View Post
people dont space bar? i tab out and do something else. Then they are waiting on me.....

People act rude or need on Bio alloy's? I ignore them and they dont get the priviledge to group with me again, simple as that.

Wanna watch the cutscene's and enjoy the story? Please, do that on your own time. You are in a random group of people who are trying to complete an objective together. This isnt you and your guild having a good ole' time. Wake up and play, or, dont que for group finder....simple.

Also, if you wanna watch the story, consider forming your own group in general chat?
See, the 'form your own group in general to see the story' doesn't work because it's circular. One could easily turn that around back at you and tell you to 'form your own group in general if you want a fast run'. Not that I don't disagree per say, I'm just pointing out a fallacious argument.
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Styxx
07.26.2012 , 07:43 AM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by MasterKayote View Post
[snip]long post
There is a simpler solution and it involves far less talking : the first question "Fast run?". It will be followed by a vote and all 4 will run the FP as the vote decided : spacebarring everything or smelling the roses.

Further above a bit there are considerations how to deal with a 2/2 split.

For any "wise guy" there is kick.. end of story.