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Pro-skippers, politeness will get you further

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Pro-skippers, politeness will get you further

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Styxx
07.26.2012 , 06:17 AM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by Cupelixx View Post
How terrible for you that the number of times you watch something before it stops being fun is greater than 1 for a good many people. You have no right to dictate what is fun to people, and I'll go ahead and say that arguing otherwise makes you selfish. If all you can do is try and deny others the game experience they are paying for, maybe you shouldn't run flashpoints with randoms. Chances are, someone is going to want to watch the cutscene. So as my inquisitor is fond of saying: "You just need to learn to deal".
You being one that refuses to spacebar against 3 that do is selfish too. It can go both ways.

And I am not dictating anything. I explained my choice to spacebar.

Also, that game experience you paid for can be found in Story Mode Flashpoints. When you refuse to spacebar as a minority, well, you are dictating how MY money are spent, by interfering with MY time.

I`ll reiterate: If you saw it 5 times already, well, you are arguing over principle and not over content. So, which one is it?

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Styxx
07.26.2012 , 06:22 AM | #172
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBetty View Post
I Second that

In all honesty letting people watch the cut scenes is really not a big deal. I don't understand why people are getting all bent out of shape about it. It adds an extra 5 mins maybe to the HM FP.If you are so strapped for time that you can't spare an extra 5 mins, how in the star wars universe did you find the time to play in the first place lol. I actually like it when people don't spacebar, gives me a chance to pour another beer

Drunk Healing is always fun haha
Believe it or not, I am NOT against the ones that are social.

But, when some snotty fellow starts arguing that 3 players must wait so he can watch the same cutscene for the 100th time, well.. that`s asking for it.

He should clearly state his intention as soon as he enters flashpoint, because he IS a minority. Anything further is solely his fault for coming out as argumentative.

So, by all means, watch your precious cutscenes.. but not on Black Talon and be sure I know before we start the flashpoint. It is common courtesy, if anything.

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ScrabblePants
07.26.2012 , 06:29 AM | #173
Isn't there a setting to auto-skip the dialogue scenes?
Not space-barring is slowing down the space-barrers.
Pressing space bar is slowing down the auto-skippers!
AUTO SKIP!!!!

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Xiahoufig
07.26.2012 , 06:32 AM | #174
I'm amazed (well, not really considering) that a simple post asking to excercise simple politeness got to 18 pages like this. Both of the logical sides of the arguments have merit but I think the overall message of the post went over a lot of heads. Being polite (in anything, not just asking to skip the dialogue) will get you a lot. Is it really so hard to simply ask for something as opposed to demanding it?
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ScrabblePants
07.26.2012 , 06:38 AM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by Xiahoufig View Post
I'm amazed (well, not really considering) that a simple post asking to excercise simple politeness got to 18 pages like this. Both of the logical sides of the arguments have merit but I think the overall message of the post went over a lot of heads. Being polite (in anything, not just asking to skip the dialogue) will get you a lot. Is it really so hard to simply ask for something as opposed to demanding it?
Seems that way sir.

Although I will just add that sometimes something written down is read in a different way to that which the author intended. e.g something sarcastic and/or 'jokey' can be read as rude, since you cant get a 'tone' accross in text. The author may read it back to themselves in a jovial cheery manner whilst others may read the same sentence in a rude demanding manner.
Perhaps some people are intending to be rude - although many actually are and have no manners what-so-ever.

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sepulhead
07.26.2012 , 06:38 AM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
Believe it or not, I am NOT against the ones that are social.

But, when some snotty fellow starts arguing that 3 players must wait so he can watch the same cutscene for the 100th time, well.. that`s asking for it.

He should clearly state his intention as soon as he enters flashpoint, because he IS a minority. Anything further is solely his fault for coming out as argumentative.

So, by all means, watch your precious cutscenes.. but not on Black Talon and be sure I know before we start the flashpoint. It is common courtesy, if anything.
well most time i see is 1 guy asking to skip and the three other are watching it but then again i only do normal becouse i dont care about endgame

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Styxx
07.26.2012 , 06:44 AM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by sepulhead View Post
well most time i see is 1 guy asking to skip and the three other are watching it but then again i only do normal becouse i dont care about endgame
The vast majority of times I used the LFG tool, for HM FP`s... it was asked and expected to skip / spacebar, to finish the FP in the shortest time possible.

I have no experience whatsoever with anything lower than 50 and LFG tool.

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Xiahoufig
07.26.2012 , 06:55 AM | #178
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
The vast majority of times I used the LFG tool, for HM FP`s... it was asked and expected to skip / spacebar, to finish the FP in the shortest time possible.

I have no experience whatsoever with anything lower than 50 and LFG tool.
It may be expected, but I think it's still a good idea to ask beforehand. It's the same line of thought behind rolling for gear. It's generally expected that a Need roll should be used if the item is a direct upgrade to the characer rolling Need but some people roll Need for their companions and others just roll Need just because they can. I just think the more you can clarify and straighten out before the run, the quicker and smoother the run actually becomes because then you don't have people fighting over loot rolls or whether or not to skip the dialogue.
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07.26.2012 , 07:01 AM | #179
Quote: Originally Posted by Xiahoufig View Post
It may be expected, but I think it's still a good idea to ask beforehand. It's the same line of thought behind rolling for gear. It's generally expected that a Need roll should be used if the item is a direct upgrade to the characer rolling Need but some people roll Need for their companions and others just roll Need just because they can. I just think the more you can clarify and straighten out before the run, the quicker and smoother the run actually becomes because then you don't have people fighting over loot rolls or whether or not to skip the dialogue.
There is always a question when everybody ported to the Flashpoint. More or less a variation of "Speed run?".

AT that point, I personally assume that democracy rules take over : if 3 votes for yes or no, we go with the vote. If 2 vs 2, there will usually be a short timeframe in which there will be a try to convince the "non-spacebar" players. If unsucessfull, then we kinda go with the flow and be proactive. They usually skip half anyway (the cut-scene lovers).

But past the initial conclusion there is nothing more to be said. A decision has been taken and it is expected to carry it until the group disbands.

There are rarely groups in which the first decision is not agreed on, or they SHOULD try to. But the ones that don`t respect it, well... they have a point to prove; which they will with the next group.

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Xiahoufig
07.26.2012 , 07:04 AM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
There is always a question when everybody ported to the Flashpoint. More or less a variation of "Speed run?".

AT that point, I personally assume that democracy rules take over : if 3 votes for yes or no, we go with the vote. If 2 vs 2, there will usually be a short timeframe in which there will be a try to convince the "non-spacebar" players.

But past the initial conclusion there is nothing more to be said. A decision has been taken and it is expected to carry it until the group disbands.

There are rarely groups in which the first decision is not agreed on, or they SHOULD try to. But the ones that don`t respect it, well... they have a point to prove; which they will with the next group.
Yeah, you're right for the most part. I think the topic in general is about those who only do one or the other without any regard to what anyone may want. I think the best way to deal with a 2/2 split is then base it on the FP. If it's a relatively short one, then just go with the dialogue but if it's a longer one, then skip.
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