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07.25.2012 , 02:52 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by jarjarloves View Post
They have also said MANY TIMES that the Makeb and the level cap increase will be FREE.
Mind pointing where? I havent heard this before.
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jarjarloves
07.25.2012 , 03:03 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Tommot View Post
Mind pointing where? I havent heard this before.
they said it in a bunch of E3 interviews
here are a couple of interviews about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txpfoYS36FQ
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...-the-Game.html


James says Makeb will be the largest content ever added to a MMO for free outside of a Expansion.

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07.25.2012 , 03:24 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
This is speculative. It is not fact. Your argument has many logical errors. There is no way to "divine" the future of SWTOR or any MMORPG.
Then people should stop predicting it's death, no? I think that is what he was speaking to....the constant and continual unsupported post promulgating such?


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By stating "oh noes that's an exception", you invalidate your own argument. Since you emphatically stated:

"Whatever the future holds, rest assured of one thing. The chance of this game no longer being supported even years from now is almost nonexistent."

Again you show defensiveness in the defence of your premise.

Now all that said, I would like to see this game stay around for a while but, with defenses of SWTOR like this, we don't need any enemies.

This is just another example of:

"Quick Fanboiz Assemble! ™"

Good try. Poor execution.
He may have not phrased it completely correctly as a thesis, but the gist of the argument is solid enough to postulate a theory regarding the subject matter. In short, the chances of this game suddenly going belly-up in the next several years, let alone the next several months, based upon observable data regarding the genre, is very minute. Exceptions are irrelevant to the argument. There are always exceptions.
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07.25.2012 , 03:59 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
He may have not phrased it completely correctly as a thesis, but the gist of the argument is solid enough to postulate a theory regarding the subject matter. In short, the chances of this game suddenly going belly-up in the next several years, let alone the next several months, based upon observable data regarding the genre, is very minute. Exceptions are irrelevant to the argument. There are always exceptions.
You're ignoring the observable data regarding this game. 2.4 million subs to 1.3 million subs in 3 months. That number is no doubt much lower now, you'll see in a month or 2. My server went from 100 people on fleet when that number was announced, to under 20 people at peak times.
They went from 100+ servers to just 12. Explain how that's not a huge sign the game is dying?
It's unlikely the game will shut down in the next few months, BUT to say it can't die in the next several years is just delusional.

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Synxos
07.25.2012 , 04:02 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by jarjarloves View Post
they said it in a bunch of E3 interviews
here are a couple of interviews about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txpfoYS36FQ
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...-the-Game.html


James says Makeb will be the largest content ever added to a MMO for free outside of a Expansion.
They've promised a lot of things, and changed them at the last minute.

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Radzkie
07.25.2012 , 04:02 PM | #76
You can call me a pessimist if you want, but I'm fairly certain that the "game is going to end soon!!!11oneoneone!!! OMGBBQHOTDOG!!!" rumor will always be around. As long as we have crazy people running about the streets saying the world is ending tomorrow, we'll have crazy people doing the same thing to MMO's.

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Darth-Malice
07.25.2012 , 04:43 PM | #77
I guess you never played SWG, Matrix Online, Taubla Rosa, All Points Bulletin, Earth And Beyond to name a few
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Soluss
07.25.2012 , 04:46 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Goldenstar View Post
SWG was gutted 2.5 years into the game and they kept it running for another 7 years after that. Sort of emphasizes the OP's point.
SOE keeps everything running for as long as possible. They have the money to do so. Not saying that this game will get the plugged pulled... just sayin

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07.25.2012 , 04:49 PM | #79
They just fade away?
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Soluss
07.25.2012 , 04:49 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by WickedDjinn View Post
I suppose I should have titled the thread MMOs rarely Die.

Sounds less impressive though, and should be besides the point. Have MMOs vanished? A few.

But Ultima Online, Everquest and Asherons Call, the first MMOs, are still alive. Dozens of MMOs in worse shape than TOR, with smaller player bases and less support continue to exist years later. Almost every MMO ever made persists. To the point that an MMO actually dying is incredibly rare.

Point is, we have nothing to worry about. TOR isn't dying and isn't going anywhere.
To be fair though... games like everquest cost about 47 grand to make and not much at all to maintain. Games like ToR cost 200+ million bucks to make and far exceeds what it takes to maintain. EA and SOE are far different companies too.
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