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Pro-skippers, politeness will get you further

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Pro-skippers, politeness will get you further

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DarthTHC
07.25.2012 , 11:26 AM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by uziforyou View Post
I'll make this simple for you....................then don't PUG!!

Everyone is paying their $15 a month. If other peoples idea of fun is to watch every second of every cut scene that is their perogative and it's tough luck for you, you're in the same PUG as they are. Drop and re-queue if you don't like it.
Except we need to remember they're in the minority so it's vote-kick them back to the tail end of the DPS queue if we don't like it.

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Trollokdamus
07.25.2012 , 11:47 AM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Are you going to pay for my sub for forcing me to play the way you want to? How about pay for the subs of all 3 of us who are in there with you who don't want to watch the cutscenes? Oops, too late. We vote-kicked you.
Doing a flashpoint with cutscenes = intended way. Doing it without cutscenes = optional way which works only if EVERYONE is up for skipping them. This is how the game works. This is how Bioware made it.
Vote kick... it's a flaw really. The idea of vote kicking is ok, but in its current state it's too easy to abuse it, kicking everyone you don't like unlimited number of times. The devs should improve it asap imo. WoW vote kick system is a very good example how it should work.

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MillionsKNives
07.25.2012 , 11:48 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Except we need to remember they're in the minority so it's vote-kick them back to the tail end of the DPS queue if we don't like it.
You assume you can figure out who it is. What do you do when all 4 of you are saying "spacebar already!"? Start kicking and hope you get the right one?

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Newyankalt
07.25.2012 , 11:49 AM | #104
I would have kicked you.

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TheBBP
07.25.2012 , 11:52 AM | #105
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Are you going to pay for my sub for forcing me to play the way you want to? How about pay for the subs of all 3 of us who are in there with you who don't want to watch the cutscenes? Oops, too late. We vote-kicked you.
You are allowed to skip the convos. You just have to watch the "Waiting for another player" message. If there are 3 jerks who wish to kick a player because they want to watch the story and get the vote on me, I can deal with that. You can deal with finding a new tank or healer.

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DarthTHC
07.25.2012 , 11:56 AM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by MillionsKNives View Post
You assume you can figure out who it is. What do you do when all 4 of you are saying "spacebar already!"? Start kicking and hope you get the right one?
Since I only do hardmodes on a tank or healer, I'm likely to say, "Sorry, I don't have the time or patience to watch these cutscenes yet again," and then type /leave.

But to each his own I guess.

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TheBBP
07.25.2012 , 11:57 AM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
I can speed run Taral V 4-5 times in the time it takes me to run Esseles with dialog.

I can run Esseles twice speed mode in the time it takes to run it once story mode.

I have better things to do with my ingame time than watch the same cutscenes for the 100th time in a hard mode flashpoint, and so should you. If you don't, as others have said, you can solo just any flashpoint in story mode if you really want to see the story.
You are out of your mind if you think that you are important enough to tell people to go solo if they want to see a Flashpoint story. If folks want to skip, they will. If they don't, you get to deal with it. Instead of telling folks to go solo, how about you don't use the group finder or queue with a pre-made of skippers. Kicking people out of a group for playing the game as intended is asinine and borderlines abuse of the vote kick option.

Like I said, I can deal with getting back in the queue. If you don't have 3 votes to kick me, I guess you will have to rage quit.

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DarthTHC
07.25.2012 , 12:00 PM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBBP View Post
You are out of your mind if you think that you are important enough to tell people to go solo if they want to see a Flashpoint story. If folks want to skip, they will. If they don't, you get to deal with it. Instead of telling folks to go solo, how about you don't use the group finder or queue with a pre-made of skippers. Kicking people out of a group for playing the game as intended is asinine and borderlines abuse of the vote kick option.

Like I said, I can deal with getting back in the queue. If you don't have 3 votes to kick me, I guess you will have to rage quit.
Yep, I certainly can drop my tank or healer out of the group and the players who want to watch the reruns for the 100th time obviously have the patience to wait for another tank or healer. Works for me.

I can just log over to another character who hasn't done a hardmode yet for the day and re-q... or I could log a different one to level up... or go craft some stuff... or run a LFG raid with my guild and friends if enough are on.

Like I said, I have plenty of better things to do with my game time than watch the same old cut-scenes yet again. No rage. Just more fun / entertainment value for my hour of game-time.

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MasterKayote
07.25.2012 , 12:04 PM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by LarryRow View Post
Good luck getting Qyzen or Scourge to not stand in the red circles at the end.
It takes some micromanaging and is less forgiving but its very possible. If I can keep Pierce and myself away from the AoE and Slow of the final boss in BT I can easily keep them away from them the lightning strikes in Esseles. Like I said HMs are easy and I have done BT with no healer.

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The option to queue for spacebar or not spacebar runs will not work since Fresh 50s would pick spacebar hoping to get carried and watch the content anyway. If they can't even put in a gear check, what makes you think they can execute this well?
They have to see how it splits the community but so long as it doesnt double the wait time for either side id be ok with that.

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Saurakk
07.25.2012 , 12:04 PM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Yep, I certainly can drop my tank or healer out of the group and the players who want to watch the reruns for the 100th time obviously have the patience to wait for another tank or healer. Works for me.

I can just log over to another character who hasn't done a hardmode yet for the day and re-q... or I could log a different one to level up... or go craft some stuff... or run a LFG raid with my guild and friends if enough are on.

Like I said, I have plenty of better things to do with my game time than watch the same old cut-scenes yet again. No rage. Just more fun / entertainment value for my hour of game-time.
You talk as if the other people care if you leave or not.

You have every right to play the way you want but don't expect everyone to play the same way...especially when your preferred method is optional and not intended.

You stated before you are a guild leader. Why even do PUG's then...I am sure you have a good core to faceroll through the FP.