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Pro-skippers, politeness will get you further

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LarryRow
07.25.2012 , 10:24 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by MasterKayote View Post
Ah yes, put yourself in LFG lockout for 15 minutes(?) just so you can save yourself 5 minutes of cutscenes. If thats the IQ of the healer or Tank then im going to go out on a limb and say the group is better off using a companion or waiting for a better one.
Esseles is a LOT more than 5 minutes. Like I said earlier, I don't mind waiting for people in the other flashpoints, but Esseles watchers are not for me. I will leave. And I am the tank so you are screwed. Good luck getting Qyzen or Scourge to not stand in the red circles at the end.

Meanwhile, I'll go do a warzone or work on my Black Hole dailies while my lockout expires.

The option to queue for spacebar or not spacebar runs will not work since Fresh 50s would pick spacebar hoping to get carried and watch the content anyway. If they can't even put in a gear check, what makes you think they can execute this well?
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Trollokdamus
07.25.2012 , 10:28 AM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by funkiestj View Post
this might be a good group finder option:
  • [x] will skip (spacebar) dialog
  • [ ] will watch dialog
Not really. At least not until they make Group Finder cross-server. I mean it already takes way too much time for your FP to pop as dps, dividing the player pool like that will make things much worse.

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grezgorz
07.25.2012 , 10:30 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Eternalnight View Post
Kind of looks like the OP is trolling



Can't take seriously anyone who claims watching all the cutscenes takes only 3 minutes in BT.

In BT if you do things the slow way, it can easily take more than 90 minutes to complete the FP while it could be done in less than 15 minutes if you go for a fast run.
We are taking about huge amount of time wasted there.

And first of all, if you want to watch all the cutscenes in BT, you can GO SOLO THE STORYMODE, anyone level 17+ (and many people even lower than that) can just solo it, and then you can take all the time you want without bothering anyone else.

Just because you "enjoy" watching the cutscene does not give you the right to make the fp run unenjoyable for 3 other people. Stop being a selfish jerk. Why should your enjoyment take priority over the enjoyment of the 3 other people?

And do remember that this is just a game. That means some people may have real life jobs and families and so on. Making a FP run last more than an hour (not 3 minutes but an hour) longer than it would have to take, is a big deal and can cause real serious inconvenience to some people.

In most of the other flashpoints watching the cutscenes may be alright (if you aren't being a jerk about it and slowing it down just for the sake of slowing it) but if someone is not skipping in Black Talon, I would see vote to kick and ignore as perfectly good options.
Agreed. He was griefing.

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DarthTHC
07.25.2012 , 11:03 AM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBBP View Post
I am feeling inspired to queue up and watch some cut scenes. I will space bar often on my own, but seeing as how some self-entitled folks see it as their undeniable right to skip cutscenes, I will flex my right to watch them.

Until the Spacebar Hammer's Hociety pays for my sub, I will allow any and all who want to watch the cutscenes to do so. If folks put up a votekick to deny someone the cutscenes, I will shoot it down every time.
Are you going to pay for my sub for forcing me to play the way you want to? How about pay for the subs of all 3 of us who are in there with you who don't want to watch the cutscenes? Oops, too late. We vote-kicked you.

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DarthTHC
07.25.2012 , 11:05 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by TheSeventhJedi View Post
Why play the same crap over and over again? It can't be entertaining after the 20th time.
BH Commendations, Social Points, Meeting new players who might actually be good enough and/or cool enough to put on my friends list or invite to my guild for 3 starters.

I sure don't do it to watch the cut-scenes, just like I don't go back and watch the same episode of I Love Lucy every day for a month. (And Lucille Ball was amazing! Far moreso than the cutsenes in this game...)

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bsbrad
07.25.2012 , 11:06 AM | #96
It is always better to ask the team at the beginning of a flashpoint whether everyone has done the flashpoint and if so, do they mind skipping the cutscenes. Sometimes, I like to watch them myself eventhough I have done the flashpoint multiple times

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Blackavaar
07.25.2012 , 11:11 AM | #97
When I am running a FP group I always put it this way, "Skipping the cut scenes (press space bar) will be appreciated, but if you haven't seen these conversations feel free to watch. I'm good either way. "

People do appreciate the niceties.

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Kiarro
07.25.2012 , 11:14 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Eternalnight View Post
Kind of looks like the OP is trolling

Can't take seriously anyone who claims watching all the cutscenes takes only 3 minutes in BT.

In BT if you do things the slow way, it can easily take more than 90 minutes to complete the FP while it could be done in less than 15 minutes if you go for a fast run.
We are taking about huge amount of time wasted there.
Ok, there may be a little more than 3 minutes of dialog, but I will absolutely go toe-to-toe with anyone trying to claim there is more than an hour of "movie" in that flash point. You will prove it with edited youtube screenshots, or I will consider your statement to be dumb. Maybe that's okay with you...

If you want to say someone's statement is not-credible, destroying your own integrity in the same way does NOT help your argument. Just imo there...
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uziforyou
07.25.2012 , 11:23 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Eternalnight View Post
Kind of looks like the OP is trolling



Can't take seriously anyone who claims watching all the cutscenes takes only 3 minutes in BT.

In BT if you do things the slow way, it can easily take more than 90 minutes to complete the FP while it could be done in less than 15 minutes if you go for a fast run.
We are taking about huge amount of time wasted there.

And first of all, if you want to watch all the cutscenes in BT, you can GO SOLO THE STORYMODE, anyone level 17+ (and many people even lower than that) can just solo it, and then you can take all the time you want without bothering anyone else.

Just because you "enjoy" watching the cutscene does not give you the right to make the fp run unenjoyable for 3 other people. Stop being a selfish jerk. Why should your enjoyment take priority over the enjoyment of the 3 other people?

And do remember that this is just a game. That means some people may have real life jobs and families and so on. Making a FP run last more than an hour (not 3 minutes but an hour) longer than it would have to take, is a big deal and can cause real serious inconvenience to some people.

In most of the other flashpoints watching the cutscenes may be alright (if you aren't being a jerk about it and slowing it down just for the sake of slowing it) but if someone is not skipping in Black Talon, I would see vote to kick and ignore as perfectly good options.
I'll make this simple for you....................then don't PUG!!

Everyone is paying their $15 a month. If other peoples idea of fun is to watch every second of every cut scene that is their perogative and it's tough luck for you, you're in the same PUG as they are. Drop and re-queue if you don't like it.
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DarthTHC
07.25.2012 , 11:25 AM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Kiarro View Post
Ok, there may be a little more than 3 minutes of dialog, but I will absolutely go toe-to-toe with anyone trying to claim there is more than an hour of "movie" in that flash point. You will prove it with edited youtube screenshots, or I will consider your statement to be dumb. Maybe that's okay with you...

If you want to say someone's statement is not-credible, destroying your own integrity in the same way does NOT help your argument. Just imo there...
I can speed run Taral V 4-5 times in the time it takes me to run Esseles with dialog.

I can run Esseles twice speed mode in the time it takes to run it once story mode.

I have better things to do with my ingame time than watch the same cutscenes for the 100th time in a hard mode flashpoint, and so should you. If you don't, as others have said, you can solo just any flashpoint in story mode if you really want to see the story.