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Read the Q/A this morning, Now I'm angry

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Read the Q/A this morning, Now I'm angry

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Spatology
07.25.2012 , 10:20 AM | #41
We dont really take logs anymore for HM EC. Its been on farm for weeks and we are in full campaign. If i really cared about your opinion i might put in the effort to prove myself to you, but i dont. I told the guy why he was wrong, its pretty much what the devs told you, but i gave more detailed reason's why.

If you dont get it at this point, i cant help you =(.

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blinkwise
07.25.2012 , 10:25 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Spatology View Post
We dont really take logs anymore for HM EC. Its been on farm for weeks and we are in full campaign. If i really cared about your opinion i might put in the effort to prove myself to you, but i dont. I told the guy why he was wrong, its pretty much what the devs told you, but i gave more detailed reason's why.

If you dont get it at this point, i cant help you =(.
Its amazing how cool you are! You don't care about my opinion while you are posting a reply to my opinion.

Not everyone is full campaign, 1200 dps is fine. Don't fall off your horse or you could seriously hurt yourself

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Spatology
07.25.2012 , 10:30 AM | #43
i was replying to the post asking for logs from my guild, i dont owe you anything buddy. Im not even close to being a great player, however, i was telling the guy why PVE relics where better for CURRENT content then PVP relics. If my answer wasnt good enough, im not going to come in here and be even more of a jerk and post logs.

I appologize for offending your delicate sensibility.

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blinkwise
07.25.2012 , 10:40 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Spatology View Post
i was replying to the post asking for logs from my guild, i dont owe you anything buddy. Im not even close to being a great player, however, i was telling the guy why PVE relics where better for CURRENT content then PVP relics. If my answer wasnt good enough, im not going to come in here and be even more of a jerk and post logs.

I appologize for offending your delicate sensibility.
And I agree with your point that pve relics are better.

I do not agree with you making fun of some Mara from some random *** guild just because he dosnt have your gear or skill level. 1.2k is not terrible and modesty looks better on a skilled player then elitism. Being an ******e derails your point which I am trying to support.

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POSOINU
07.25.2012 , 12:55 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by blinkwise View Post
I used the relic I linked earlier and parsed it last night. It did 2000ish damage on the 4th boss in HM EV (the individual guys).

In a 2min Fight:

So the passive one i posted earlier does like 2k (the campaign that does internal dmg),

the active does more like 1.5k (per above but math changed to once ever 1.5 seconds as that is the Global cooldown)

and the pvp relic does 2k (per above, again modded for the actual GCD of 1.5 seconds)

Conclusion with this very basic math:

The difference is negligible and the relics ARE balance. 1-2k extra a fight is like one extra move.
.......................

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Sindorin
07.25.2012 , 12:59 PM | #46
OMG IMMA SCREAM BECAUSE ONE SET GETS 2 EXTRA DPS! IT"S SOOOOOO IMPORTANT KGAIS?

Seriously. Raiding is a blight on MMO's. It's dead. Leave it in the past. Jeebus.

Masta-Blasta - Vanguard

Sindorin - Assassin

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Spatology
07.25.2012 , 01:01 PM | #47
exactly how many fights are "tank and spank" and dont have burn phazes in EC.....0.

You are talking about a encounter where you burn all cooldowns and its less then 3 mins in total. I would be HIGHLY suprised if the pvp relics outpreformed the use relics. Also, many people arent able to effectively evaluate a use Relic because they dont USE it on cooldown paired with adrenals or class dps cooldowns.

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POSOINU
07.25.2012 , 01:02 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Spatology View Post
i was replying to the post asking for logs from my guild, i dont owe you anything buddy. Im not even close to being a great player, however, i was telling the guy why PVE relics where better for CURRENT content then PVP relics. If my answer wasnt good enough, im not going to come in here and be even more of a jerk and post logs.

I appologize for offending your delicate sensibility.
@ lol your mara did 1200 dps
1. He died on that fight
2. He has the highest dps right now for people that use mr robot
http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/combatlog
go to Ranked logs Hard Zorn and Toth


@the quote
If your argument is your wrong, to bad.

Either
A. Show me some math
B. Show me some logs


also keep it on topic

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Spatology
07.25.2012 , 01:17 PM | #49
You offered the logs as if it they where proveing your point, a 1200 dmg marader is definately not super impressive and if i where going to throw logs in peoples faces, you can bet they would be ones in which people did their best or close to it. Your 2 snipers ( im assumeing they where snipers because of 1600 dps and their ability to basically not move the whole fight nearly) are about where they should be, overall i bet you guys are sucessful in EC HM if you have people generateing numbers like that.

There are not comprehensive or even remotely popular ranking sites for the moment.

What parser are you useing?

I dont crunch numbers, i wont be provideing napkin math. Also, im at the office now, if you want some logs ill get them, but you will be waiting for close to 4-5 hours. Thats if i get time to handle that before raids tonight.

I still stand behind my original statement. For current content, the use relics aren't mandatory for burn phazes. However, paired with Inspiration, and or, an adreanal, im certain the numbers swing in my favor.

If im wrong, im no coward, ill admit it.

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Spatology
07.25.2012 , 01:23 PM | #50
http://momentum-tor.enjin.com/

I realize this wont prove anything. Ill get you logs shortly. We use mox, havent ranked any kills or logs because of server transfers and general lack of a clear winner as the ranking sights are rallying for supremacy atm.