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Pro-skippers, politeness will get you further

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Pro-skippers, politeness will get you further

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SleepyJoeFriday
07.25.2012 , 03:06 AM | #21
I'll spacebar to skip if I've recently played, but I don't yell at people to do so.
A quick look at group composition will tell you if people are likely to have done the FP before. It's pretty certain that if a toon is below level 11 that they haven't done Black Talon (or Esseles for that matter) before.

I think it best for people to state at the beginning of the FP if they want to skip dialogue. Is it really that hard to pose the questions: "Are we skipping dialogue?" or "Are we rushing this FP?" or "Are we doing bonus sections?"

In the end I don't really mind what people do - I get my commendations anyway - unless they're rude about it in which case I never give into what they want.

Two good tenets to go by "Politeness costs little but goes far" and "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

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Shonuff
07.25.2012 , 04:04 AM | #22
Well this is how I see it.

I would say that watching the cutscenes is the responsibility of the anxious viewer. If he/she wants to see it, it is his/her responsibility to tell the group way ahead of time that they want to view the story. From then on you will get two answers. yes or no. If the answer is no then you can simply leave and find another willing group who wants to see the cutscenes.

I say this because the group is at the mercy of the person who wants to watch it. While everyone skips the cutscene they are forced to wait till anyone who did'nt skip finishes. This is not fair to the group who may have already seen the story and just want to get through the FP.

I feel the OP is just butt hurt because he got flamed for not hitting spacebar. But the way I see it is if you seen the story you should be skipping it regardless and even if you have not, you should consider the group who is with you and value their time.

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Icestar
07.25.2012 , 04:06 AM | #23
If I or someone wants to watch the story then go ahead. If some hyped muppet gets angry about that I do not remotely care.

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grombrinda
07.25.2012 , 04:11 AM | #24
I'm one that love's to help people (hence why I play mmo's and not console games) and yes i've run into PUGs that want to skip.And I usaully do when asked politely.But I do understand that some new player's are watching this for the first time and it's an awesome experience for them so I don't mind waiting. If we should all learn this patience ,things would be so much better.
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Grammarye
07.25.2012 , 04:30 AM | #25
State your intentions at the start of the grouping, and find a different group if your and the other players' beliefs differ. Problem solved.

Works for avoiding jerks in groups too for the most part.

I couldn't disagree more with some of the statements made in this thread, that somehow the OP is wrong to feel the way they do. However, there is no need to agree on the one true way or what is normal or etiquette or any crap like that.

Group with like-minded people. Ignore those that disagree, and if necessary block them. Might sound harsh, but I'm long past believing that people can all get together, group nicely, and sing kumbaya. MMO players can be jerks, ignorant, opinionated, unpleasant, and stupid. They can equally be great people that you'd want to spend quality time with. Kinda like life really.

Edit: All that said, the OP's point that politeness gets you further is spot on.
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RixoFutu
07.25.2012 , 04:36 AM | #26
I ussualy ask for skip, nicely, words "please" and "thanks" can makes miracles. Never had a problem with that. And if anyone want to watch, i don't mind. Let others enjoy the game, don't be a jerk. Bigger problem are ninjas stealing crates, bosses, whatever ... while you fighting mob to get that item, they steal it, never ask if they can ... thats kind of ppl i hate with a whole my heart.
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Leovinus
07.25.2012 , 04:39 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
I get impatient during cut scenes ive seen a hundred times too, but ive never yealed at anyone about it, i dont think ive even ever told anyone to hit space bar.

I think they need a special check box for the group finder for people that want to weatch the cut scenes, if you really want to watch them that bad then you can take the extra time it will take to get the group. Ofcourse bw cant even make the GF figure out what spec someone is, x server or give you your rewards reliably, so it will probably just remain a good idea forever.
To be honest, what they probably ought to add, in this vein, is a button to indicate you want to spacebar, not the other way around. A button not being checked would be the default. And there are a lot of people who honestly don't care whether they get a spacebar run or not, so I'd err on the side of making queues shorter for those who DO want to see them. Let those who want to rush find each other. If that population is so much larger as many of them claim, they shouldn't need the "don't care"s for their queue.

Then if someone in that group would like to consider making it a spacebar run (say a random FP and you got BT, instead of BoI), they can have that discussion, especially if it looks like the whole group may be vets who've run it a lot.

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Kavu
07.25.2012 , 04:48 AM | #28
I love the storyline and the immersion the cut scenes provide but TBH sometimes, I may have an hour to play and just want to be able to blast through an FP without pulling to much wife aggro. I still ask politely mind you, theres no excuse for poor manors.
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Wraiven
07.25.2012 , 05:08 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by testszag View Post
i remember reading how one guy would watch the scenes, but type the "hit spacebar!!!" in the chat. pretty funny.
OMG that is just too funny. Sitting there, eating popcorn, enjoying the cutscenes, while all long screaming at your team mates to hit the space bar! LMAO!
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gsrmn
07.25.2012 , 05:18 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by testszag View Post
i remember reading how one guy would watch the scenes, but type the "hit spacebar!!!" in the chat. pretty funny.
lol something i might do