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Huskeonkel
07.24.2012 , 07:59 PM | #1
I had a PUG run today in Black Talon with a couple of what I'll describe as immature impatient obnoxious kids, screaming in chat for me (and the fourth guy) to skip the cutscenes. Even after a few seconds of video, we were generously showered with "skip, SKIP FFS" and "SPACE you *******", which always gives other people a nice fuzzy feeling inside.
Now, instead of perhaps trying with "Please, can we skip the cutscenes?", which I would have agreed to, the comments instead convinced me to make it a point to watch every single second of dialogue in the flashpoint, just to annoy those kids. And boy did it ever.

Sadly I've seen this impatient and obnoxious attitude become pretty common when doing flashpoints, as if skipping is viewed as must-do and expected. A lot of people don't expect people to want to watch this stuff, even though BioWare put it there for us to watch. I for one really enjoy this dialogue and watch it when I can, and will continue to do so in flashpoints far more times than just one. These (very well done) cutscenes do represent part of the default game that everyone has paid for. Some people have actually not seen this stuff yet and should be given every chance to. "But its just Black Talon!!! Skip FFS". Doesn't matter what it is, if someone enjoys it, let them watch. You can wait 3 more minutes to finish the flashpoint.

So you guys out there in a hurry for some reason, other people are far more inclined to skip the story stuff for you if you're not being a *ick about it And for those who act like those two kids and wind up in a group with me, bring plenty of popcorn.
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TheBBP
07.24.2012 , 08:03 PM | #2
This is bad, especially with the new players that are showing up lately. I always make sure it is clear that folks can watch the scenes if they like. I usually begin watching the scenes if folks are rude about it.

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testszag
07.24.2012 , 08:05 PM | #3
i remember reading how one guy would watch the scenes, but type the "hit spacebar!!!" in the chat. pretty funny.
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DarkSaberMaster
07.24.2012 , 08:10 PM | #4
I don't really care about watching the cut-scenes, but I do agree with you about those people. I was in a Mandalorian Raiders PUG and the guy who was our tank, who was the lowest level by about 5 out of all of us, kept running ahead aggroing everything. I hadn't done it in awhile, so I wanted to take my time to learn it again. We kept telling him to slow down and everything, but ******* was hyped up on Speed or something. Anyways. We completed it with no problems. It was just frustrating as hell cause I always seem to run into that when I queue up on group finder.

The one thing that really pissed me off though, was that he was complaining about me not giving him any healing love. I was like, "Dude. You've been the ONLY one I was healing damn near 90% of the dern FP cause you kept aggroing everything and because of your low level. If you want, I can completely ignore your *** and let you die." I didn't hear anything more about it for the rest of the run.
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Eternalnight
07.24.2012 , 10:38 PM | #5
Kind of looks like the OP is trolling

Quote: Originally Posted by Huskeonkel View Post
Some people have actually not seen this stuff yet and should be given every chance to. "But its just Black Talon!!! Skip FFS". Doesn't matter what it is, if someone enjoys it, let them watch. You can wait 3 more minutes to finish the flashpoint.
Can't take seriously anyone who claims watching all the cutscenes takes only 3 minutes in BT.

In BT if you do things the slow way, it can easily take more than 90 minutes to complete the FP while it could be done in less than 15 minutes if you go for a fast run.
We are taking about huge amount of time wasted there.

And first of all, if you want to watch all the cutscenes in BT, you can GO SOLO THE STORYMODE, anyone level 17+ (and many people even lower than that) can just solo it, and then you can take all the time you want without bothering anyone else.

Just because you "enjoy" watching the cutscene does not give you the right to make the fp run unenjoyable for 3 other people. Stop being a selfish jerk. Why should your enjoyment take priority over the enjoyment of the 3 other people?

And do remember that this is just a game. That means some people may have real life jobs and families and so on. Making a FP run last more than an hour (not 3 minutes but an hour) longer than it would have to take, is a big deal and can cause real serious inconvenience to some people.

In most of the other flashpoints watching the cutscenes may be alright (if you aren't being a jerk about it and slowing it down just for the sake of slowing it) but if someone is not skipping in Black Talon, I would see vote to kick and ignore as perfectly good options.

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Eternalnight
07.24.2012 , 10:47 PM | #6
And while we are on the subject...

Quote: Originally Posted by Huskeonkel View Post
So you guys out there in a hurry for some reason, other people are far more inclined to skip the story stuff for you if you're not being a *ick about it
If you want people to "politely ask" for you to hit spacebar, then you should also remember that you also did not "politely ask" from them first if it is ok with them that you slow the fp run by making it more than an hour longer than it needs to be.

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TheBetty
07.24.2012 , 11:01 PM | #7
I honestly don't mind if people don't spacebar through the cutscenes, especially if they haven't been to that fp before. Some of the cutscenes I do like to watch over again. Such as pistol whipping the captain in boarding party haha classic.
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Lord_Karsk
07.24.2012 , 11:02 PM | #8
Yeah i hate those kids who cant relax a little. Do like me, i normally skip all VO after i have seen it the first 2-3 times
but if i get that 1 child who tell everyone to space i will watch everything just to piss him off

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turjake
07.24.2012 , 11:15 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Eternalnight View Post
And while we are on the subject...



If you want people to "politely ask" for you to hit spacebar, then you should also remember that you also did not "politely ask" from them first if it is ok with them that you slow the fp run by making it more than an hour longer than it needs to be.
Not spacebaring would be the normal, expected mode of operation. When they give a mode where you need to press spacebar to see the whole conversation, then we can start talking about asking permission to do that.

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MasterKayote
07.24.2012 , 11:18 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Huskeonkel View Post
I had a PUG run today in Black Talon with a couple of what I'll describe as immature impatient obnoxious kids, screaming in chat for me (and the fourth guy) to skip the cutscenes. Even after a few seconds of video, we were generously showered with "skip, SKIP FFS" and "SPACE you *******", which always gives other people a nice fuzzy feeling inside.
Now, instead of perhaps trying with "Please, can we skip the cutscenes?", which I would have agreed to, the comments instead convinced me to make it a point to watch every single second of dialogue in the flashpoint, just to annoy those kids. And boy did it ever.

Sadly I've seen this impatient and obnoxious attitude become pretty common when doing flashpoints, as if skipping is viewed as must-do and expected. A lot of people don't expect people to want to watch this stuff, even though BioWare put it there for us to watch. I for one really enjoy this dialogue and watch it when I can, and will continue to do so in flashpoints far more times than just one. These (very well done) cutscenes do represent part of the default game that everyone has paid for. Some people have actually not seen this stuff yet and should be given every chance to. "But its just Black Talon!!! Skip FFS". Doesn't matter what it is, if someone enjoys it, let them watch. You can wait 3 more minutes to finish the flashpoint.

So you guys out there in a hurry for some reason, other people are far more inclined to skip the story stuff for you if you're not being a *ick about it And for those who act like those two kids and wind up in a group with me, bring plenty of popcorn.
QFT!!!!

Cutscenes are part of the experience and only add 5 or 10 minutes... if someone want to do it let them.

Also OP, you want a new way to piss them off? Start screaming to skip as well. Its freakin hilarious when all 4 people are in full caps trying to figure out whats going on. Even had a guy convinced it must have bugged or something. Not much of a stretch considering Biowares track record.
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