Why do people hate this game?

"Star Wars The Old Republic is a different type of mmo

It's the type of mmos built for the people who love story. For the people who love choices that affect them and their decision making processes. For the people that like to get immersed in a universe that is Star Wars. For the people that just want to adventure."

You yourself state it's a story based mmo.....
yet they haven't updated the story at all in 7 months. and there's no sign of them expanding the storylines anytime soon.
Not to mention this game has the worst immersion I've seen in a game. It doesn't feel like you're in the Star Wars Universe at all.

Hope...

Yes. You indeed are trolling because you made a post asking a question that you already knew the answer to and for the sake of just telling people that their opinions are wrong. You already have it made up in your mind that anything anybody brings up that doesn't match your own beliefs, is wrong. That is a troll post. Along with what you said above. And if you hate these post so much, why do you continue to read them? Just like you say they can just leave and not say anything, you can ignore the thread and go about your business. You're no better than the "haters" you ***** about.

But anyways. Here is what I find wrong with this game. It's taken from a post in the Unsubscribers Thread and the author is Nerifes. and no. I'm not unsubscribing to the game because I still do find some enjoyment in it. But I wholeheartedly agree with everything he says.

"First and foremost; I am quitting because I start medical school in the fall however I felt like ranting about why I disliked this game. Only stayed because SWG is gone.

This game is to much of a headache. I was lucky enough to be asked to participate in the beta back in August when yes, myself and my guild from SWG were all wearing soaked panties for this game in hopes it would be a nice placebo for SWG. As soon as I hit 26 or so the whole game lost its brand new feel, luster and glowing enticement of voice overs, delicious stories and I started to criticize it hard. Of course, back then when I began to slam this game for being way to under developed for a release in December I was throw under the bus for only being a die hard fanboy of SWG because I was apparently "the best commando on my server" but I didn't care at all by then. SWG was dying I was simply looking for an MMo to replace it. No matter what I said to my guild they ignored it all and now look. They all pushed in with wet panties and giant bulging erections for this game only to quit a month after release. Two people aside from myself are all thats left in the guild that play. Out of the 123 servers or whatever what, 5? 6? servers are standard at peak times for their respected zones on average. With only 2 being Very Heavy and one being Full.

My issues in beta:
No Chat bubbles
Mini-map doesnt show NPC's on radar so you can look at your radar to avoid aggro or find mobs easily.
One CC breaker? Really? This game is pretty much a CC fest and you give everyone just one CC break? Of course there is a class with 2 but come on. I thought Spiritmasters Fear in Aion was god awful, the resolve bar in this game and the 3213214 stuns that follow are completely stupid. There isnt even a CC resist for some classes that desperately need it. (Commandos/Mercenaries)
Your group finding tool is a good 4 years behind most MMo's look at Aion's group finder tool. It trumps yours tenfold.
World PvP is completely useless. Not only does the CS department ban players on a PVP SERVER for OPEN WORLD PVPING there is no point to it. You gain no Valor. I would think you'd gain at least a little valor but nope. Just a kill in your PvP Warzones statistics but before 1.2 we never even had that, we had Ilum which was a complete planet of fail. Another prime example of why this game was released way to early.
Your codex is writhed with bugged entries so to all the collectors and people that like to accomplish stuff completely on planets, gg because you can't. Enjoy 14 planets of 29/30 or 24/32 entries and after 2 patches they still haven't fixed them.
Theres a lot of furniture in this game. A lot. Starports, cantinas, ships, fleet and more. Can you sit? Nope. Enjoy the look of it all because they are not accessible. Only on your ship you can.
All games have a night and day cycle with shadows that work respectfully for that time of day. Not for ToR.
Weather effects? Nope. None.
Your character design is just about 11 years behind SWG and even more behind Aion. Every species is just a modified human model. Really? No Wookies? No Rodians? Not only that, you can't design your character to be unique. Can't change the eye size, ear size, eyebrows, chin jaw cheeks. Nothing. There are preset heads and customizations for you. How awesome...

My issues now?
PvP is horrible. 4 warzones over and over and over and over and over. And for what exactly? 140 comms 3k valor and the 20 minute voidstars and the god awful alderaan and huttball matches that last for 15+ minutes. Every time I Queue for warzones I pray to god for Novare Coast.
Crafting is pathetic is this game. No where close to the customization, the itemization and complexity of SWG. Resources are a joke to gather, got to love those bugged nodes. Companion missions take for ever. Entirely needs a rehaul.
Companions. Pretty much ruin the whole MMo aspect of this game. You can pretty much solo anything in the game aside from heroic 4's and of course flashpoints along with operations. Really?
All of your melee classes have free mobility to use their attacks and barely any cast times for their abilities. Ranged classes? No mobility, a LOT of cast times. Thats wrong.
Space is garbage compared to SWG. There is no comparison actually. Its that horrible. A rail shooter thrown together and added to make the fanboys for this game cream their panties before you hastily launched this pile of garbage game.
There is no open world to explore. And the world we have is boring to explore. There are no ruins, no interesting POI's. Just a cluster mess of NPCs humping each other around the map surrounded by neat looking shrubbery or the same piece of metal you see in every city or space station resused 100 times. Can't forget about those pipes you love so much Bioware. Just going to let you know, pipes, do not make star wars. They are just in the way and more useless texture for my computer to load and render. Now this complaint is prominently "im a sandbox fanboy" complaint. So hate on me all you want but I don't like to be boxed in and have my story told for me. I want to play the game the way I want to. SWG, I could.
As soon as you hit 50 what do you do? Really? Aside from warzones if your a PVPer and Flashpoints/operations if you're a PvE'r what else is there to do? Spend all your credits in the Legacy system or crafting useless trash? You could do all the content in a day. Finish both weeklies, both dailies and log off. After you get your gear you're done with this game. The credits should just roll when you hit 50 and tell you to buy the next game you release because end game content in this game is pathetic. "But what about making sure your armor has the right mods????" That will probably take you 2 weeks maybe more. After that what? Grind another character for a new story? Thats your end game content? How about the people with lives here? The ones with 2 hours to spare to play only one toon not 8.
Aside from the Lore and Datacrons, there is hardly any immersion. I can't personally get into the game at all. Could be because the story is being told for me about my character not truly my unique gaming alias but a predetermined story of every class saving the republic or empire at the end. Where do you go from there? Honestly. I killed the bloody emperor on my Sentinel. GG. The story made him sound like a hulking mammoth capable of killing me by batting his eyelids however when I visited Dromund Kaas I made that dark hearted baddie into my little [insert censored word so the CS department can't complaint] in 6 seconds as my companion sat there in the corner attempting to pull off a heal pretending to actually help or do anything worth poop .
The whole cutscenes before warzones. They need a turn off button. And the instructions for huttball and commentary for alderaan need to just be removed at 50 warzones. Because at level 50 I expect everyone to have at least an idea of what the heck is going on and what to do. I'm tired of hearing about how the imperials are on to me in alderaan or how hutts don't have feet.
The "ground breaking" voice overs for every quest where only the first few sentences or so matter then the rest is just oh when you get there here is the directions of what to do because apparently you are dyslexic and cant read the quest log or look at your mini-map for the rather obvious yellow and glowing green indicator that blatantly shows your where and what to do. 300 million spent on directions. Nice. I enjoy it in the story but you could cut most the dialogue out and save money by having them just say mission details on what to be done have been sent to your datapad. Bam. Saved my space bar from getting pounded 10 times and 5-6 minutes of my life.

Overall, aside from your obnoxiously spent for flashy voice overs and its franchise background (Knights of the Old Republic), this is is a steaming pile of poopoo. Not an MMo. This game in terms of MMos is a whopping 7 years behind. It's an over hyped, premature piece of garbage that is not worth in any way $15 dollars a month nor time in my life to play and go nowhere."

Many reasons.

Endgame was horrible when the game came out. I'm not talking about for those people who were 50 in a week.

I took my time watched the story and was 50 in a week and a half. Did most of it solo. And I was BORED at 50. That's when a MMO should truly start to shine.

Didn't take long for people to see that Biochem was the only profession that mattered. Took them months to fix that. I'm still cybertech. Have not changed. Can you guess the last time I truly used the profession last? Probably back in February to make all the sorcs(because we had a lot) in my guild the crafted earpiece with augment slots. I've tried 10 times to RE grade 61 mods with no luck. I know RNG happens. But it's just getting annoying now. Once in a while I might remember the bombs in PvE. At least they made the other professions less worthless.

Operations were buggy as hell, and one was incomplete. Some flashpoints were on the same boat. Plus with no group finder people got annoyed fast with spamming to find a group.

Which brings me to the next setup: Features. This game lacks them. Especially standard MMO ones.
-Customizable UI(have it, although it is very limited and dumbed down)
-Group finder (took too long, they lost a lot of subs over this one I"m sure)
-Dual(or multi) spec (soonish?)
-Better UI (I realize this goes with the first, but it doesn't. watching my dots on a target who's got 7 physical dots is a chore. Easier to just guess if mine is up or not. And oh please give me something like power auras....)

I'm OK with them not wanting us to make add-ons. As long as they can provide us with the proper functions it does not matter. Dual Spec and a more friendly UI(seriously, just go higher the guys that made bartender or dominos) would greatly improve the feel of the UI in this game.

Lack of open world. We have huge planets. Multiples of them. Yet why am I not doing much in them? Why do I almost never see a republic? Why even have PvP servers if you separate us? You force it into griefing. Right now the only PvP I ever see outside of warzones are pubs in the Ilum heroic daily area ruining people's day. Even with that, the world is static. Very static. No weather. No roaming enemies. They all just sit there in their little box, moving around in that. If I'm outside a big bad base, I'd expect to see speeders going around, lookouts on top of towers pointing enemies to me(increasing their agro radius). There is no life to the world of this game. People came here expecting to experience in the Star Wars universe. Not watching it like a zoo.

And then there is balance. First off Operatives(and the pub equivalent). Who thought putting a classes highest damaging ability with a stun was a good idea? And you wonder why you cannot balance it?
But it's not just that. How long have sorc/sages been stuck with lower end damage? How long have their trees been look to as junk and everyone picks the first half of each one? I don't understand what they are doing and why this has not been addressed. I realized they can dps decently, they're not broken. Are they really forced into waiting till 1.4 for a fix? Even though it should of come out at 1.3.
And lastly on that. As a Marauder. Who though making Ravage immune to interrupts was a good idea? Created so many problems. No class has an ability that FORCES the other player to burn a CC or speed cooldown to avoid it's damage. No you cannot simply run out of it, It has a lag time on the last hit and will still hit the target 99% of the time. Unless they have a speed increase. Again, as a Marauder. Fix this. I do not want my perfectly fine class nerfed in PvE because of some dumb buff to balance PvP.

And lastly, content. Game came out with 2 raid instances. One full of bugs, one incomplete.
We get rest of second, yey us. First one still bugged as hell. If you don't understand this. My guild 1 shot EC HM, went through EC SM to gear some alts, Did EV HM up to Soa. No wipes yet in any of them. Wipe 3 times to bugs. Bugs they claim were fixed in many patches. Like Soa's shield not breaking. End game was frustrating and not very fun for these reasons. Everyone ran BT HM for their daily. Because you guys made it so stupidly easy. And half of the other ones were bugged or had some over tuned bosses.

You many ask why I still play. I play with my guild. Stuck with them through the harder times in WoW. I'll stick with them in here. I enjoy playing with them. If they chose to leave this game for another. I would have no regrets in doing so.

The only excuse I can think of as to why this game has so much trouble is the engine. They bought a poor version of the Hero engine to save money. 200 million to make this game with all the voice action and they cut back on the most important part of it. Team EA at it's best.

And before you look down on Elder Scrolls Online for using the same engine. They didn't buy the same one this game did. But time will tell with that one.

To answer the OP's question:

Hate is to strong a word, I do not hate it. I am upset with it and it's fanboys, now that's a different matter. They are the one's with the hate on here, hate of anything that doesn't agree with them.

Did I think it would be the 2nd coming? No. We came here with our old lotro/rift guild only for them to return to lotro and L.o.Legends. 90 something guildies down to 7 in a couple of months. (We* - the wife plays also).

Do I even play it? (This may shock the FBs) Yes, I do. And I enjoy it, but only when I'm doing HM OPs twice a week with the guildies. If it wasn't for them this would be uninstalled long ago and the subs left to burn away. (Not long left now anyway - that should cheer a few FBs up!).

Do I fire "digs" at it? At every turn! Valid points are shot down and ignored from above.

Why? The flaws! The Flawed story (So Baras and the emp can die twice? A 2nd character about to join the DC. A 2nd about to win the great hunt.. again!), the silence from upstairs, the blind fanboys that love to hate any upset player whom they insta see as lower than themselves, the ton of dailies that mean nothing and have little to no goal or reward. The list is endless.

In short, this is not a real mmo. It's kotor with friends. It's on par with D3. (IMO).

It has one thing going for it... Potential. It could be great, but it would take a mammoth task and time is the enemy here, the silence lately speaks volumes, yet most seem to have their heads well into the sand and assault those that differ.

Will it fail? Only if EA pulls it offline.

Is it in trouble? I'd say "yes!", but what do I know. I'm just some dumb fool. ©DronesRus

I say good luck to it, it may need it, September should be a very interesting month. (IMO!).

I'll wait here for my daily abuse now, thank you for the chance to speak Sir. /salute

The one thing it lacks also is the fact that the stories have no impact on the world around you at all. Guild Wars 2 is promising that things you do in the story will affect how things play out in the game and how the world changes. You may be at a village one day and the next it's gone because you failed to protect it. This game has nothing of the sorts.

Don't know if you have played a lot of MMOs but this hatred is not an uncommon thing.

Truth of the matter is that whining and complaining is more of a motivation to use the forms than a state of general contentment. Game forums are always full of people complaining and predicting the end is nigh.

You want to know what I honestly first thought when BioWare put the choices in this game? I thought that all of them would be tied to something EPIC that would happen at that time or shortly after. Even more, at endgame. I thought it would be something like your choices would matter for the FUTURE instead of just what you can say to them in the now. That's what I truly thought it was. That's the most disappointing thing that came out of this game for me. I thought the choices were going to reflect who your character is and there would be 100000 different types of endgames due to the choices you made. THAT would have been completely revolutionary.

So guys...I can see the frustration with the game. I get it. Maybe hate was too strong of a word.

It does kind of frustrate me that James Ohlen said they have at least 2 years of storyline work done already for the game and the patches are going to be monthly. Whatever happened to that anyway? "They are going to be rolling out every month"

People hate this game because it is not a carbon copy of World of Warcraft. Simple and as pathetic as that.