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Kourage
07.24.2012 , 08:39 AM | #221
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Fans have called him out and claim that Bioware is just pointing fingers for their own failure as they opened the official forums on September 12, 2011 where as the game came out three months later on December 20, 2011. It is hard to believe that three months worth of fan feedback could influence the game that was in development since 2006.


No, the forums have been up since 2008 and I've been on them since May 2009 racking up over 5k posts before the reset. Most of the concerns were about the MMO aspects or lack of, not that the game wasn't enough like KotOR. I never even played that game.
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grandmthethird
07.24.2012 , 08:56 AM | #222
as i wrote in the last thread that got locked

what idiot watches all their fellow employees get fired, then thinks "hmm i wonder what i can do to draw attention to myself and put me in the firing line?"
"Hope has a vicious enemy called fate"

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Rogozhi
07.24.2012 , 09:22 AM | #223
All of this speculation is such a stinking pile of crap I am honestly baffled that anyone would believe any of it.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=509819

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Rogozhi
07.24.2012 , 09:33 AM | #224
I've noticed lately that the everyday F2P doom and gloom threads have included a few articles quoting a real BW insider. He reveals the game will be going F2P, Cathar will need to be purchased, fans ruined the games, and SWTOR killed SWG. All very revealing--and very troll worthy, stuff. Here's links to two of the articles:

http://blogs.bettor.com/Anonymous-Bi...Update-a173317
http://www.gamertechtv.com/2012/biow...r-swtors-woes/

Crazy stuff eh? Almost so crazy that you wonder: Is it a pile of BS? To figure that out you need to go to the source:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/07...yoffs-rumored/

Scroll down to the comment below the article to see the original comment that has warranted at least two articles on gaming sites. Now before I post the actual comments, and before you defend their content, I would like you to answer a single questions about them.

1) What makes comment A anymore authentic than comment B? Or even comment C?

Comment A

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auto34058432
I know many won't believe me. but, I work at Bioware. best part for me is coming here to read fans replies. I won't tell you much and I don't care if you believe me. So here is "what's" going on were I work.

If you havent noticed the interviews we had given sometime back had been removed. mainly, the interviews that gave it "away" that we are looking at adding F2P model. we are indeed adding free to play to the game. now the best part for me is anonymity I have that allows me to be open.
We will have mainly have a "fluff" shop for the new direction with F2P. but much of the legacy system will have the option to purchase those "perk's" (the main reason credit cost are high to slow progression until we patch F2P) as well many parts of the game will have new content that requires you purchase are type of "coinage" from the cash shop so you can buy the access to "special" content/quest. now new companions will also be in the shop. but due to us getting down sized and the staff changes a small team is working on these F2P changes.
I don't want anyone to be upset by this. but many of these changes had been in the "planning stages" for many months since the sharp drop in subscribers. many parts of the game will cost money to access. for example you can unlock the new "cathar" race in your legacy. but buying the unlock, it will cost 10$ US

So we are all pretty upset here. we know Daniel and Jimmy many more are next round of layoffs. EA blames us and to some extent they're right to. but it was fan feedback from the day we opened the forums that encouraged us to design it for the fans the way it is and that included making it more like Kotor then an MMO like Wow. Also from what I have heard in the halls, Starwars Galaxies was shut down due to the fact are talks with LA,EA suits ecouraged the new guy at LA to increase the licensing fee at renewal time. it was a move to remove any direct competiton to TOR.

Sorry guys gotta go but be good to each other.
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ben5099
Hey guys i'm a bioware employee and I don't expect anyone here to believe me but I just wanted to let you know all this doomsaying is just a load of bull.

The truth is there are no plans to go F2P anytime soon. Yes we have a contigincy plan if subs managed to drop well below 200k. But after looking at the trends there isn't any signs that will happen.
Our plans our to keep rolling out content with 1.4 planning to come out in late September and 1.5 in December. We still have more then enough developers to keep this game alive and well.

So fear not.
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Sean10
Hi Guys,
An other Bioware developer here, just wanted to let you all know that the new super secret legacy companion is Mint-Berry Crunch, and he will cost $9.99 every time he is summoned.

Also, we are getting ready to fire Ray Muzyka tomorrow, because doctors have no business making games.

Like the other devs here I am not concerned about my strict NDA with a company that has a history of enforcing them harshly and has ties with the major gaming sites to prevent actual developers from posting. As such, I will continue to show no professional etiquette by continually leaking things to online gaming sites.

So fear not, this is all true!

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Rayla_Felana
07.24.2012 , 09:37 AM | #225
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I dunno, Craig, auto's words ring rather hollow. He comments on a _wide_ variety of stuff and he shows his hand on a few things, like "We've been planning this for many months since the sharp drop of subs". The only sharp drop that was announced that scared EA Investors was only 3 months ago does that sound like many months to you? Before that, EA/Bio has been full of their bluster and chest-thumping, I doubt that if they had such an attitude, they've been planning it "for many months".

And again, I remind you of EA-history. While Rath1337 pointed out some of EA's f2p titles, those were a bit more "smaller games" that focus on stuff like FPS matches and short-game sessions. None of the big AAA titles have gone f2p including UO, DaoC, and even Warhammer. Mind you, not saying it could happen in this case, what with all the execs leaking stuff, but there is still no strong evidence other than it is water-cooler talk or a consideration that, again, I have to point out, has never been considered on their other titles as Warhammer.

Interestingly enough, Warhammer does have a small cash shop (along with the sub) but it does not charge for content.,,but now they are considering it for SWTOR? Again, there are holes in his story. He also seems like quite the office gadfly to be everywhere and comment/hear about everything.

I am open to it, but I am tending not to believe his post. At least I am carrying a large grain of salt in reading him. The later guy seems a bit more sincere/honest, but again, you got to be cautious about his statements, too.
This was a reply made to the original statements that people keep getting this F2P talk from.

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Tmanarl
07.24.2012 , 09:38 AM | #226
Wait wait wait wait.....so this ENTIRE "insider" fiasco is PURELY based on an anonymous comment on an article on massively?!?!?!!?!? WHY ARE WE SO GULLIBLE?!?!?!?!?!
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Rayla_Felana
07.24.2012 , 09:39 AM | #227
Quote: Originally Posted by Tmanarl View Post
Wait wait wait wait.....so this ENTIRE "insider" fiasco is PURELY based on an anonymous comment on an article on massively?!?!?!!?!? WHY ARE WE SO GULLIBLE?!?!?!?!?!
I wonder this myself and wonder why I bother even debating in the General Discussion section sometimes.

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Rogozhi
07.24.2012 , 09:41 AM | #228
Quote: Originally Posted by Tmanarl View Post
Wait wait wait wait.....so this ENTIRE "insider" fiasco is PURELY based on an anonymous comment on an article on massively?!?!?!!?!? WHY ARE WE SO GULLIBLE?!?!?!?!?!
Yes. I tried posting a thread about it, with links to all the articles, but it got closed. All based on a comment.

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Daethorz
07.24.2012 , 09:44 AM | #229
I find it ridiculous how people think Swtor would make a good F2P Game.

EA owns Bioware who owns SWTOR.


IF SWTOR goes F2P it will most likely end up as a full blown P2W(Pay 2 Win)
Buy Gear, Levels, New Companions, Faster Mounts, Better Stims, Who knows, With Cash Only, those who don't put up tons of cash to be the best, get eaten by the ones who do buy the stuff.

Pay 2 Win is the Cancer of MMOs.

As i have said, SWTOR will have NO REASON to go P2W if they get their stuff(censored) together and give us content that makes SWTOR's Endgame DIFFERENT than World of Warcraft.

I'm sick of posting the specifics of what they could add on multiple posts, if you want my examples go to my signature post, i put alot of thought into my ideas and actually visualize them in the game.

Bioware has obviously misunderstood its playerbase, bioware/ea thought we wanted WoW in space, when we want Kotor as a mmo instead. They have a chance to fix it, but every week and release of a new mmo will dig them into a deeper hole.
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Daethorz
07.24.2012 , 09:47 AM | #230
This shouldn't even be a debate, the playerbase needs to unite and demand the removal of autopilot for space battles, and the addition of kotor content such as swoop racing.
This game IS based of KOTOR afterall.
That would be like making world of warcraft without Orcs.

But ofcourse the vast majority of mmo players want to do nothing but fight and troll eachother, i offer constructive criticism, not just flat out criticism.
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