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All These Angry/Quit Threads Makes Me Sad

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All These Angry/Quit Threads Makes Me Sad

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DarthCDiv
07.23.2012 , 05:25 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Selvec View Post
I'm happy with people leaving. It weeds out the whiners and makes it easier for quality players to meet up and enjoy each others company in the TOR world. Its also a great environment for RPers to thrive.
And when it's just you and the last women left in the galaxy she still wont sleep with you. That's all who will be left. Enjoy.

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GalacticKegger
07.23.2012 , 05:26 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Caelrie View Post
It's time to stop blaming SWTOR's failure on being a new game, don't you think? Here we are, months into the game and it's STILL missing most of the features MMORPG gamers have come to expect in a game, features other games have managed to include at release or shortly after.


More and more excuses. SWTOR is currently far more instant-gratification than WoW is.
Name some of those features ... NVM ... I'm sure you could publish a list of every feature from every MMO in history so miniscule (even if you had to make them up which I'm sure you would) that its sheer volume would make lesser minds than yours explode. Sorry. There's a difference between bringing issues to light and gratuitously trashing something ... your posts being the latter.

Wrong audience ... wrong lake.

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DarthCDiv
07.23.2012 , 05:27 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Name some of those features ... NVM ... I'm sure you could fill pages of features from every MMO in history that are so miniscule (even if you had to make them up which I'm sure you would) it's sheer volume would make lesser minds than yours explode. Sorry. There's a difference between bringing issues to light and gratuitously trashing something ... your posts being the latter.

Sorry ... wrong lake.
Barbershop.

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Valkirus
07.23.2012 , 05:32 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Muskaan View Post
D3 is not an MMO. D3 doesn't have a monthly sub.

As a casual player, I got my $59.99 worth of D3 by beating Inferno on one toon and quitting. I am not a D3 fanatic and am not crazy about farming the AH for gear. However, I believe that I have got my money's worth.

Regarding Blizzard's problems in Korea - it's a legal technicality that Blizzard will lose because of Korean laws. Koreans are generally extremely hardcore gamers. If you had a Korean friend, you would have realized, how hardcore they are. Diablo 3 release didnt meet up to their QOS.

Tell me the name of another online PC game that had to deal with the tremendous pressure of having to support 6.5 million users going online during the first week of release. Yes, Blizzard failed to provide a smooth start. But they were operating in technical limitations way beyond their expectations. And way beyond any online company has ever dealt with before.

I like SWTOR. I still play it. And I really do want it to succeed. This game is my best bet of fulfilling a childhood fantasy of losing myself in a Star Wars world.

As an independent gamer with no affiliation I play both Blizzard and Bioware games with equal passion. I like Shepard & the ME franchise as much as I like Jim Raynor and the Starcraft franchise. I like DA as much as I like Warcraft. Why should I hate either Blizzard or BW. Fanboism is immature. Hating a game just because a certain company is making them is very immature. Judge a product by its own merit. Not by its maker. A solid professional rivalry between BW and Blizz improves the quality of product they release which is beneficial for the end-user (us gamers).
Excellent post! Right on the mark too. Competition is good for all gamers. Those who try to compare TOR to D3 as a MMO comparision have no clue what a MMO is. lol! Blizzard still sold a min of twice as many copies of D3 as BioWare did with TOR.
Trust is something which is earned.

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GalacticKegger
07.23.2012 , 05:34 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthCDiv View Post
Barbershop.
Within a 7 months? Try 28. Let's see here ... Barbershops in capital cities ... Patch 3.0.2 ... 4 years after launch (LK release - the 2nd xpac.) When did LOTRO and Guild Wars implement theirs?

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Soluss
07.23.2012 , 05:39 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Name some of those features ... NVM ... I'm sure you publish a list of every feature from every MMO in history that are so miniscule (even if you had to make them up which I'm sure you would) whose sheer volume would make lesser minds than yours explode. Sorry. There's a difference between bringing issues to light and gratuitously trashing something ... your posts being the latter.

Wrong audience ... wrong lake.
Guild tools and guild perks
Barbershop
Mentoring
Dynanic events
Large scale PVP WvW RvR ... whatever you want to call it
Housing or some form of ship customization
Click link gtn search
Dual Spec
An achievement system... no the codex is not an achievement system

To name a few.

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Sarfux
07.23.2012 , 05:40 PM | #57
You know what I find a little odd? EVERY person that I have asked why WoW is better than SWTOR, they can't answer me. They stare at me blankly with a stupid look, or come up with dumb excuses, or change the subject. Every person I have talked to, even my neighbor who is a HUGE wow freak, can't even come up with anything why it's a better mmo than TOR. Cause there are a lot of things in TOR that wow doesn't have. Movable windows and customizable UI for two.

But anyway, not one person I have talked to in real life for an opinion on mmos can tell me why WoW is a better game. They just all give me a blank stare.

You want to know why? Because WoW is still nothing but a fad. It's the "cool" mmorpg to be into still. It's the "wow has this many subs and I don't want to feel like I'm left out so I will play and tell myself I love it" type of deal. The reason why it is so big and popular is because it is a train. More people went onto the WoW train when they saw how many other people were going onto the game because they didn't want to feel ...left out...in a way by their friends who played it or called a nerd for NOT playing it. That's why it's sooo big. Yes, there are people who love it for the game. But the reason why it's so big is because it's one thing. A FAD.
Always be who you are, not what the galaxy wants you to be

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Soluss
07.23.2012 , 05:40 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Within a 7 months? Try 28. Let's see here ... Barbershops in capital cities ... Patch 3.0.2 ... 4 years after launch (LK release.) When did LOTRO and Guild Wars implement theirs?
This is 2012 not 2004

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GalacticKegger
07.23.2012 , 05:41 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
Guild tools and guild perks
Barbershop
Mentoring
Dynanic events
Large scale PVP WvW RvR ... whatever you want to call it
Housing or some form of ship customization
Click link gtn search
Dual Spec
An achievement system... no the codex is not an achievement system

To name a few.
How many MMOs had all this when they launched?

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Soluss
07.23.2012 , 05:46 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
You know what I find a little odd? EVERY person that I have asked why WoW is better than SWTOR, they can't answer me. They stare at me blankly with a stupid look, or come up with dumb excuses, or change the subject. Every person I have talked to, even my neighbor who is a HUGE wow freak, can't even come up with anything why it's a better mmo than TOR. Cause there are a lot of things in TOR that wow doesn't have. Movable windows and customizable UI for two.

But anyway, not one person I have talked to in real life for an opinion on mmos can tell me why WoW is a better game. They just all give me a blank stare.

You want to know why? Because WoW is still nothing but a fad. It's the "cool" mmorpg to be into still. It's the "wow has this many subs and I don't want to feel like I'm left out so I will play and tell myself I love it" type of deal. The reason why it is so big and popular is because it is a train. More people went onto the WoW train when they saw how many other people were going onto the game because they didn't want to feel ...left out...in a way by their friends who played it or called a nerd for NOT playing it. That's why it's sooo big. Yes, there are people who love it for the game. But the reason why it's so big is because it's one thing. A FAD.
While I am not a personal fan of WoW.... a fad doesnt last 8+ years. Fads die in 6 months. ToR would be more a fad then WoW. Why do people not quit? Because the people that play have connections in game that they dont want to lose. Reguardless of how one feels about WoW, and remember I dont like it either, the game has a lot of things to do and is generally just fun for many people.

People spent 8 years playing WoW. Thats alot of money and time invested just to move to another game that has less content. The better question would be ... what does ToR have that WoW doesnt. Please dont say story because, even though the story and voice acting is great, it gets old and its over fast. How many times do you truely want to do balmorra or any other planet before you start hitting that space bar on anything besides new class quests?