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BioWare, communicate, please?

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BioWare, communicate, please?

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Urael
07.23.2012 , 11:58 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Celwinn View Post
May I point out a few things:

-Blizzard has an expansion that is coming out in a few months, so any new updates shouldn't be happening (Updates in terms of content)
-Blizzard is actively in Mist of Pandaria Beta, answering questions, providing feedback etc. Not to mention, MoP Beta is doesn't have a NDA.
-Blizzard has just announced that 5.0.1 (I believe it was this patch) will be hitting the PTR in the next few weeks, which means MoP is very close.

Meanwhile,

What exactly has Bioware been doing?

All we know is:

-New Planet (Makeb)
-New Companion (HK 51)
-New Race (Cathar)
-New level cap

I'm just comparing the communication between the two companies. It seems like Bioware has no idea what's going on for TOR anymore. It could be that I'm wrong, but the silence/lack of communication has led me to believe this concept.
^QFT.

I Agree. I too would like to see updates from BW akin to the same way Blizzard engages their community. I also agree the silence leads me to think the worste. That and BWs communication is poor at best when it is at its best. The use of off those third party sites for getting information out. Some of the information is leaked on sites I have never heard of so I wouldn't even know to go to them. Their prefference for twitter vs. their own forums. There is a general malaise over these forums all do to BW NOT communicating. But, the fan boiz will defend to the grave of this MMO that we can't, shouldn't, and must not complain or expect as good a service as some of us have gotten in other MMORPGs (e.g. Blizzard Communications: Love him or hate him but, I think Bashiok ROCKS!).

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Bloodstealer
07.23.2012 , 12:00 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by SvnStrSlm View Post
Want want want, gimme gimme gimme. The mating call of the QQ Bird. What do you wantthem to say. The same things over and over again? Trust me, get off the forums and play the game. If your not having fun then quit and play the next under developed game that comes out where you can be equally unhappy.

PS Let me know when they release a game with all the content and features of a game that has been out for 10 years.
And thank stars your not a game developer.... if you think releasing a game that is backwards in comparison to another that is 10yrs old is the answer then.. luckily its just a game and not say an aeroplane or a car or .. well pretty much anything that has been developed ever!

Or would you be happy for the response "dont worry in 10 years time this game will have all the same features that other game has rest assured.. ooh wait that other game has moved the goal posts again.. how truly unfair of them...
The whole point of bringing out something new, is just that.. it has something new to offer. SWTOR had Voiceover awesome (at least for a few runs round the block).. but it failed to bring a game that was at least on a par with other MMO's in respect of where things stand in the gaming industry and the "new" thing begins to look a bit underpinned.
It's kinda GM saying look at our new car - it is fully voiced controlled.. no need to steer, change gear or anything, just get in belt up and enjoy the journey.... and in the next few years we will be adding front an rear axles with wheels on them, possibly even brakes within 7 years... but wooohoooo the voice control system should keep you happy tfor years to come..

So .. stop using your "the other game has been out 10 years "theme... BW has had many many years to keep its eys on the industry and what its competitors were/ are doing... but they choose to respond by offering something pretty mediochre in comparison.. heck even many of the smaller MMO's have more features then this does and some of those have been out a third of the time of that other game... so why was this game released with such a poor UI, no LFM tool, no transfer capability, no name change facility, poor customisation, out of balance PvP, no RvR, no WvW, no guild ammenities.. errm in fact very little guild anything. Heck it couldn't even get server balancing right and had to utilise a marketed game update to promote its own band aid to try and fix the issue.
The game is ok.. not bad.. just nothing like the "great " I and many, many others were expecting.. and unfortunately the players have responded the only real way they can.. by cancelling and ridiculing. I am not one for the ridicule side of things, I am sure they tried their best but lets face it Bioware is no more and its sadly showing imo.
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Rafaman
07.23.2012 , 12:03 PM | #73
We truly are like a needy girlfriend or boyfriend. Oh and passive aggressive to boot. I wouldn't talk to us. lol.

Oh well... I'm off to play. The best way BW can communicate with me is with updates and content. Don't need the warm and fuzzy, don't need a roadmap, don't need devs to validate I know MMOs. Just the content please. That is what I'm paying for.

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Nimithril
07.23.2012 , 12:09 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
Communication with the player base is an extremely important part of maintaining it, players want to know what is happening with their game, they want to know what's in store, they want to know what the Devs themselves think.
That is what the community team is for....being the bridge between the players and the developers. There is not one single reason for a dev to post on the forums unless they feel like giving us a random bit of info, just like EL did on the custom orange gear changes a while back, or GZ did on some of the changes he was working on.

Relax....the company is going through restructuring right now. The info will come.
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And finally, sitting through this video is like watching a 6 year old bash his own head in with a frying pan.. just not as entertaining.
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Arkerus
07.23.2012 , 12:13 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Bloodstealer View Post
And thank stars your not a game developer.... if you think releasing a game that is backwards in comparison to another that is 10yrs old is the answer then.. luckily its just a game and not say an aeroplane or a car or .. well pretty much anything that has been developed ever!

Or would you be happy for the response "dont worry in 10 years time this game will have all the same features that other game has rest assured.. ooh wait that other game has moved the goal posts again.. how truly unfair of them...
The whole point of bringing out something new, is just that.. it has something new to offer. SWTOR had Voiceover awesome (at least for a few runs round the block).. but it failed to bring a game that was at least on a par with other MMO's in respect of where things stand in the gaming industry and the "new" thing begins to look a bit underpinned.
It's kinda GM saying look at our new car - it is fully voiced controlled.. no need to steer, change gear or anything, just get in belt up and enjoy the journey.... and in the next few years we will be adding front an rear axles with wheels on them, possibly even brakes within 7 years... but wooohoooo the voice control system should keep you happy tfor years to come..

So .. stop using your "the other game has been out 10 years "theme... BW has had many many years to keep its eys on the industry and what its competitors were/ are doing... but they choose to respond by offering something pretty mediochre in comparison.. heck even many of the smaller MMO's have more features then this does and some of those have been out a third of the time of that other game... so why was this game released with such a poor UI, no LFM tool, no transfer capability, no name change facility, poor customisation, out of balance PvP, no RvR, no WvW, no guild ammenities.. errm in fact very little guild anything. Heck it couldn't even get server balancing right and had to utilise a marketed game update to promote its own band aid to try and fix the issue.
The game is ok.. not bad.. just nothing like the "great " I and many, many others were expecting.. and unfortunately the players have responded the only real way they can.. by cancelling and ridiculing. I am not one for the ridicule side of things, I am sure they tried their best but lets face it Bioware is no more and its sadly showing imo.
People don't care if your voice your opinion. Its the hyperbole and exaggeration that piss people off.

Saying "THIS GAME IS FAIL OMG TALK TO ME NOW BIOWARE I KNOW HOW TO FIX IT I DONT LEAVE MY HOUSE ADD PAZZAAK AND POD RACING GIVE ME A HORSIE OR A CYBER WHALE"

...is not the way to construct criticism.
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Urael
07.23.2012 , 12:17 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Nimithril View Post
Relax....the company is going through restructuring right now. The info will come.
/equip "Hudson" voice.

Going through a restructuring? Going throutgh a restructuring!?!?! Crystler went thru a restructuring under Iacocca.

This is scorched earth restructuring! It's scorched earth man, it's scorched earth!

/unequip "Hudson" voice.

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Rayla_Felana
07.23.2012 , 12:21 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
/equip "Hudson" voice.

Going through a restructuring? Going throutgh a restructuring!?!?! Crystler went thru a restructuring under Iacocca.

This is scorched earth restructuring! It's scorched earth man, it's scorched earth!

/unequip "Hudson" voice.

And the winner of EPIC post of the day is...

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snayke_eiyes
07.23.2012 , 12:23 PM | #78
i think someone said this earlier, but Bioware can't say anything without getting some sort of negativity. If you listened to the podcast, they said exactly that. They read the forums all the time, they just don't respond either because they can't or because anything they do say won't answer anything because of NDAs. Again, in their podcast, they say they would much rather hear criticism that is actually pointing out a major gameplay problems as opposed to "I want all the things ever!" So like half the others on here, just give me content.

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KuroshimaiHD
07.23.2012 , 12:35 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Nimithril View Post
Relax....the company is going through restructuring right now. The info will come.
If you consider laying off a huge amount of staff as "restructuring" then you're pretty deluded.

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Inspirator
07.23.2012 , 12:45 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
The only person talking like that has been YOU!

Bioware sells a service, this isn't some privilege we earn or some free item we should be thankful to have, we're customers and as a customer, we have a right to expect a certain level of service. So far, Bioware isn't providing it. Not even close.
LOL. Don't know why I bothered reading this whining thread, but at least your post explains explains this.

You should realize, however, that the service many of us are purchasing isn't the one you seem to think you're purchasing. We are NOT purchasing DEVELOPER FRIENDS who'll talk to us so we can feel important. Many of us realize that we're purchasing access to a game and for the most part hearing from them is irrelevant to that.

Quote: Originally Posted by KuroshimaiHD View Post
If you consider laying off a huge amount of staff as "restructuring" then you're pretty deluded.
If that's not something you consider restructuring, I'm curious what you would consider restructuring.