Group Finder Finding Jerks

The Jerk is a breed of Gamer we're going to be dealing with, and have been dealing with, for a very long time. These are the people who think they are l337 and Uber, as are all of their comrades, and everyone else should vie to achieve their level of mastery.
They are on a very different quest...They seek the glorious E-Peen, and woe to those who stand in their way.

I'm sorry, but to be frank you are completely wrong. There are some trash pulls where it is impossible for the tank to carry all of the aggro 100% of the time. FE comes to mind, as does Kaon. If the tank doesn't have them and I only focus on the tanks target (which should be the strongest mob in the group) then the healer gets killed. By picking off the normal mobs, then the strongs, then the elites, then champions I am giving the tank plenty of time to build aggro on those strong+ mobs and keeping the healer alive.

What people fail to understand and it is very apparent who these people are in this thread is that this is not WoW where every mob needs to be tanked a certain way and most of the mobs are elites. HM's in SWTOR do not require a tank for every single mob. Most mobs in HM FP's are strongs and normals. Very few are elites, and even less are champions. These are the same normal and strong mobs I deal with when I run my dailies - these aren't buffed normal/strong mobs who do twice as much damage. Even the heroic dailies I can solo on my sorcerer (minus the Torvix daily). So why wouldn't I take pressure off the tank by telling him not to worry so much about the normal mobs? Why is it wrong to do this?

And people want cross server group finder?

Every time i posted why that was a bad idea i would get flamed,but right here is a perfect example on why cross server group finder would be terrorible,this issue would go up ten fold,mark my words.

The issue here is tanking or healing for pugs. While watching your aggro is a challenge and interesting to you, it can be flustrating for a tank trying to hold threat all the time due to dps who donot watch thier aggro. Same goes for healing. All I know is it helped to lower the que times in WoW after they buffed the tank's threat and healer's heals and mana issues. And it lowered the que wait times even more so than it did after they had added the reward bags for queing in a pug run as healer or tank.

I know the better solution. Lets populate hard mode FPs with lvl40 mobs, so there would be zero chance for a PUG to fail. Certainly it should reduce waiting times? Seriously, with so many overgeared people HM FPs are extremely boring. Whenever i queue, i dream about getting a couple of 12k players in my group or Leeroy Jenkins wannabe to have some fun.

This is exactly the problem I'm having at the moment with my shadow tank.

I'm not geared up yet, but I am in a mix of orange gear with purple 22 modifications and some Xenotech / Tionese, which should be good enough for most hard mode Flashpoints. They drop Columi, so you shouldn't need Columi to attempt them.

I'm sick to the death of overgeared players wanting to do speed runs that I simply can't keep up with and skip bosses I desperately need the drops from, running ahead and letting me die and then insulting me when I can't do my job because they don't let me set the pace and control aggro.

It's got to the stage where I actually have more fun running lower level players through Red Reaper or Battle of Ilum on story mode than I do playing the content I'm geared for.

I understand your frustration, however there is something you need to realize as well. Those bonus bosses you desperately need gear from are rarely ever done. When they are done, you have about a 50/50 chance of wiping on that boss because of the fact that so many people have gotten used to skipping them that they don't know the fights. Another thing you should realize is that some bonus bosses (check HM BT) are a pain in the backside for a new tank to try out. Add to that the fact that what they drop isn't usually worth the hassle and you will see what I mean. As for the other bosses that are skippable, just don't skip em. While the dps is busy fighting the mob before the boss, run ahead and pull it (just make sure your healer knows what you are planning). Just make sure you know how the fight mechanics work if you plan on pulling a boss you haven't tanked yet.

As far as people running ahead and letting you die, there is an easy way to handle that. Let them go ahead of you. Don't fret if they call you a bad tank, because lets face it - comparatively you ARE a bad tank (keep reading, that isn't meant as an insult). Its not that you don't know what buttons to press, but your gear level is so much lower then theirs trying to hold aggro off of them on trash is going to be next to impossible until you improve your gear. Don't base your tanking skill on trash pulls - base it on boss fights. If those same people are pulling aggro from you during a boss fight, and you have them guarded, then you are likely doing something wrong. Some bosses have aggro drops (first boss in BP, Last boss in Foundry) but as long as you are holding aggro the majority of the time and not having to spam taunt on CD and not getting tore up like a clothie you really have nothing to worry about. If a campaign geared DPS thinks its cool to call a tank in tionese or less gear a bad tank then that person is no better then a senior in HS bullying on a freshman.

I noticed people in random groups on the imp side are a lot more immature. I had an alt that went LS and won and the others were dark and got all pissy about it. Then they all needed on my weapon that dropped that they couldnt even use...

Did you cause group wipes by having low DPS inadequate for killing bosses before enrage timer ? If so, then they have legitimate gripes. Maybe you need to run some lower tier stuff first ?

Makes more sense to just broaden the team but guess it depends on how excited someone is