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Feeblezak
07.22.2012 , 10:22 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Hambunctious View Post
I've been here since march 2011, and seen some really cool things in beta that got changed because of the fanboy whining.

Beacuse of that whining, the stat system was dumbed down, the modding system was dumbed down, and people whining that they don't feel like they're progressing because nearly everything was moddable, we lost a ton of useful armor styles.

Because the wow pvp fanboy whining, we got expertise which ruined level 50 pvp.

Because of wow fanboy whining missing Dalaran, we got the fleet added late. Which killed planet traffic.

I'm not saying all BW did was bad, they did make some good changes. For the longest time they refused to link the taxi hubs, and you had to make one hop to the next. That's the only good change I can think of right now.

I predicted in the beta forums what was going to happen. They'd sell a ton of boxes/downloads, but they'd be merging servers 6 months after release. Contrary to what BW calls it, it was in effect a merger. The game wasn't ready for release, and still isn't.

The only reason I am still here is hope. I don't know how much longer I can hang on though.
Remember when in beta you never had to change lightsabers because lightsabers were dealt with through the mod system? then people whined "WAAAAH weapon not progressing! wwaaaahhh" now we loot lightsabers all over the place, alot of them without any customisation at all
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Hyde_v
07.22.2012 , 10:24 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
Hi, i currently work on the side for nasa. i would just like to inform you that in 1974 we were invited by aliens to a meeting in space, we had to build a space station as our atmosphere is deadly to them. All technological advances we have had since 1976 are a direct result of this alien race who i cannot name due to fear of my life so i cannot tell you my real name to prove who i am.

This is all soo true, honest im an insider.
You are not an Insider. You're about to be neuralized. That's what you are. Bad Man in Black. Bad.
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JonathanCP
07.22.2012 , 10:25 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkSaberMaster View Post
Nobody believed the insider when he gave point for point about the NGE before it was announced by SOE either. So yes. A precedent was set and could have a possibility of truth to it.
This is not a valid argument.
You should judge Bioware's insider by it's own likelihood of being true.
I have read it.
It is very, very, very unlikely to be true.
The SOE insider knew stuff no one knew.
In this case, the guy just says things everyone knows to be true (Cathar race for example) or just gives out generality about what being F2P would mean (coin store etc....)
If your thread title is not a variation on "open letter... BIOWARE,... fail... NOW!", then you are a fanboy

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07.22.2012 , 10:27 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Feeblezak View Post
Remember when in beta you never had to change lightsabers because lightsabers were dealt with through the mod system? then people whined "WAAAAH weapon not progressing! wwaaaahhh" now we loot lightsabers all over the place, alot of them without any customisation at all
Yep. You used to get a moddable saber at then end of every milestone in your class story. Not to mention, you could get a purple color crystal on Nar Shadaa for completing the bonus series.

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Feeblezak
07.22.2012 , 10:29 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Hambunctious View Post
Yep. You used to get a moddable saber at then end of every milestone in your class story. Not to mention, you could get a purple color crystal on Nar Shadaa for completing the bonus series.
Yeah. I miss that system. Honestly i wished they'd expanded more on the mod system when it came to weapons, you could customize the actual appearence of your weapons and have a unique style associated with your character, you know, like most jedi/sith. Even Blaster-users could get their own style, everyone remembers Han-Solo's iconic blaster pistol. Instead of the cookie-cutter weapon system they have now.
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07.22.2012 , 10:41 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Hambunctious View Post
I've been here since march 2011, and seen some really cool things in beta that got changed because of the fanboy whining.

Beacuse of that whining, the stat system was dumbed down, the modding system was dumbed down, and people whining that they don't feel like they're progressing because nearly everything was moddable, we lost a ton of useful armor styles.

Because the wow pvp fanboy whining, we got expertise which ruined level 50 pvp.

Because of wow fanboy whining missing Dalaran, we got the fleet added late. Which killed planet traffic.

I'm not saying all BW did was bad, they did make some good changes. For the longest time they refused to link the taxi hubs, and you had to make one hop to the next. That's the only good change I can think of right now.

I predicted in the beta forums what was going to happen. They'd sell a ton of boxes/downloads, but they'd be merging servers 6 months after release. Contrary to what BW calls it, it was in effect a merger. The game wasn't ready for release, and still isn't.

The only reason I am still here is hope. I don't know how much longer I can hang on though.
Maybe someday a "developer" will have the sack to make the game they want, instead of caving into making the next World of Warcraft.

I don't blame the playerbase, the ones with the final say, had the final say. Not a bunch of forum goers, that can't decide from one post to the next what they want.

You want to cater to the "wow fanboy"? Be prepared to reap what you sow if you can't deliver a better (than current) WoW.

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Soluss
07.22.2012 , 10:42 AM | #27
I believe that insider. Its pretty much what has been going on. To put the blame on the public is wrong though. Bioware has made bad decision after bad decision, its not the publics fault for doing so. There were alot of great things, in beta, that were removed because of whining. Another poster gave a perfect example of the mod system being totally dumbed down because people couldnt figure it out. It was a far better mod system then we have now. Even the green trash loot was modable... everything was modable. Good classes were changed for the worst. We used to have to goto planets for dungeons and such... as there was no fleet until last beta.

The insider is most likely a degruntled, laid off employee but he is probably speaking the truth in his eyes. As for the full article, I found a big error in the writing. "as they opened the official forums on September 12, 2011 where as the game came out three months later on December 20, 2011. It is hard to believe that three months worth of fan feedback could influence the game that was in development since 2006." Thats just simply not true. The forums were open years before release.

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Surrealean
07.22.2012 , 10:44 AM | #28
This Anonymous Insider's "report" seems to quote, word for word, a post made in reply to an article on Joystiq :/ It was even posted on these forums.

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SNCommand
07.22.2012 , 10:46 AM | #29
It's not an insider, besides the F2P part he or she reveals nothing new, and insider would have knowledge of future content for months or even years ahead. Besides, this might have been possible before, but these days they can track you down for leaking such information.
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Goretzu
07.22.2012 , 10:49 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Hambunctious View Post
Because the wow pvp fanboy whining, we got expertise which ruined level 50 pvp.
You can make a viable MMORPG without a PvP stat, but it is a much, much harder path.

WARs the only one I can think of that's managed it.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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