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Character Transfer, Server Populations, and You (Part II)

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Character Transfer, Server Populations, and You (Part II)
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Arlbo_Nabbins
07.21.2012 , 11:02 PM | #471
Quote: Originally Posted by HibashiraSakai View Post
I do have 1 question.

With all the conjecture and speculation with name collision and losing beloved character names, do we actually know how bad the problem IS? As oppose to how bad it MIGHT be?
It's all going to depend how "unique" your names really are.

I moved 7 toons, I kept the 3 original names I came up with myself and lost 2 of the 4 names I used the in-game name generator for (Amixeen > Amixen and Jaelri > Jaelari). The Talvanin legacy transferred with the name intact.

In effect I only lost names that came from the random generator that everyone else uses, which was not unexpected as I didn't always get the first choice I likes when using the generator.

Quote: Originally Posted by Therox View Post
I didn't want to transfer my chars at first, but now... I SURE WON'T TRANSFER THEM!!! I'm a RP gamer, so I don't like all that grinding-pvp crap. It bugs me that there are only 3 RP english servers (Europe) and very few on the US. Finally when I decided to try transfer my chars, they only let me move them to THE PROGENITOR... Who would in his sane mind play in a server with such a pathetic, stupid, poorly named server? They could've come with Kryat Dragon Pearl, or The Maw or something else... but nooooo, THE PROGENITOR...

Then I come to this forum, a thing I have not done since the game release, to find out char transfer does not let you transfer all your chars to the same server, so you have to pay later to do that... nasty. If I have to pay to move my chars to the same server I'll wait
You are an RP gamer who is complaining about something that does not exist from an RP perspective?

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Laurapalooza
07.22.2012 , 09:45 AM | #472
Why is it so difficult for BW to give us - their paying customers - a straight yes or no answer, to if they are planning on increasing our transfer options before the automatic forced move ? It's not a difficult question, they must have an answer if they are working to a plan of automatic moves by the end of summer.

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Roalmo
07.22.2012 , 04:40 PM | #473
Quote: Originally Posted by Laurapalooza View Post
Why is it so difficult for BW to give us - their paying customers - a straight yes or no answer, to if they are planning on increasing our transfer options before the automatic forced move ? It's not a difficult question, they must have an answer if they are working to a plan of automatic moves by the end of summer.
The man u want to talk to about this, is fairly high up the corporate ladder.

He is short and constantly has his hand tucked in his shirt. The transfers WILL BE done HIS way.

This is also the same dude, that has decided that any trouble you have logging on, or playing with low fps, or latency problems are YOUR FAULT.

The game will not progress until this "person" (using the term loosely) is fired. (and NO, communication is not his forte)

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Tuscad
07.22.2012 , 10:36 PM | #474
Quote: Originally Posted by Darkness_Squall View Post
Just because you don't place importance on character names doesn't mean that anyone who does is wrong. People paid $65 for the game at launch, and one of the benefits of this was having the privilage of taking their character names without filling them up with symbols or double-letters. Now, because EAware vastly overestimated the game's numbers, we have all these server shutdowns and countless people being forced to change their character and legacy names. Now, people who bought the game for $20, or, more likely, individuals who took advantage of the free trials or free-to-level-15 offer and never logged in again have taken the names of people who have paid for and actively supported this game for half a year.

To address your second point: several other MMOs have implemented a system where if someone never logs into their game at all for some amount of time (6 months, a year), their character names will be put into limbo, and other people who are actually going to play the game are free to take them. If no one does and they return, they get to keep their names - if not, they get a free rename. No deletion would ever occur. The system works, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. Why should people who are never going to log in again get to sit on character names? If names really don't matter, why is there so much emphasis on them, both in-game and in the naming restrictions and rules?

Finally, your suggestion of "deal with it or don't play" might be true in this situation, but only if EAware has no intention of listening to customer complaints or responding to feedback. People have successfully enacted change countless times throughout gaming history, let alone human history, and if everyone had the attitude of "suck it up or leave", the world would be a grim place.
I agree with you.
Date Joined: March 2009 - Date unsubbed: 9/18/2012
It's been real but the game just wasn't worth the sub for me anymore.
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Concheror
07.23.2012 , 12:15 AM | #475
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainScitch View Post
WoW hires stars to promote their game years after it launched ... Star Wars has it's own Holywood connections it should have tapped into. Imagine Harrison Ford playing his Bounty Hunter .... just an example .. I know that it would be unlikely as he avoids Star wars, Billy Dee Williams, Anthony Danials, ....... who needs Mr. T , Chuck Norris , or mini Me .. They coulda Made Yoda playing a Smuggler ... that would be funny, and it would show me that EA is willing to back them.


An interesting idea but with one fatal flaw: None of the characters in the movies existed in the era of The Old Republic! According to BW lore the game is set about 30 years after events in KOTOR and about 3,000 years BEFORE the events of the films! I suppose you could craft an ad campaign with Ford, Hamill, Fisher and Yoda, but it would have to be them speaking as fans or as their characters possibly reading from some history texts about TOR!
Despite this well-published fact, I still see peeps on the servers almost every day wanting to see Yoda, Luke, Leia et.al. who seem to have no clue that the time difference between the Old Republic and the time of the films is the equivalent IRL of the difference between modern times and Ancient Egypt! So even if something along the lines of a "come play where our distant ancestors played" could be crafted, far too many viewers would be confused, expecting to be greeted by Luke and Leia or Darth Maul when they log in! The only unfortunate thing about the choice of era, in my view, was that some NPC's in both Factions already have the classic Leia "double cinnamon bun" hairdo! Something to be said for tradition I suppose!

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Tiralyon
07.23.2012 , 12:06 PM | #476
Quote: Originally Posted by sithrommie View Post
Sorry, it's really hard to care about this. Use a slight variation of the name, put in a ' or something, and it's almost good as new.
Bioware is not --- nor should they --- delete people's characters just becasue someone else is upset over a name. Just not gonna happen.

Same advice for you that I had to deal with also when dealing with forced server changes and having to play on overcrowded servers; we both have only one option: Deal with it or don't play.
I'm choosing to stay and play anyways, even though i have to bypass a lot of missions becasue the overcrowding and kill stealing makes many missions (esp. bonus ones) unplayable.
No, I imagine you don't care because you likely didn't lose any names, or at least to a level one that is never ever logged in.

Try reading my post again. I never said anything about a character being deleted lol. Only that the name be freed up if the account it is on is not in use after several months. Many MMO's have a system where if an account is inactive after a set time, be it six months or a year, the names on that account can be made available to someone who is still playing, if that name is requested. If it is not ever requested, the name stays with that character.

You're attitude sorta reminds me of the current state of players from that other game... even they will free up character names on inactive accounts after six months. We can agree to disagree and leave it at that.

Again, what I asked is not at all unreasonable. Any MMO worth their salt has this policy, and an obligation to keep customers happy as much as possible. Some demand huge changes, others ask for simple things. Every hear the phrase " The Customer is always right"? If customers are unhappy, they will go some where else. I'm waiting to see what happens later. Time will tell if they can clear up/fix something as simple as I'm asking or not. If not,Well there are other MMO's who at least tell you what is going to happen later with an issue.

What we all want right now is an answer of what is to come. That's it, because BioWare right now is doing the worst thing they could, and that is not respond.

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JetAten
07.23.2012 , 01:08 PM | #477
No one is going to lose their character so I don't think this is as big a deal as its being made out to be. At the worst you'll lose your name. It would be worse if they said Transfer by so and so date otherwise your chars will be deleted.

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Ipea
07.23.2012 , 01:33 PM | #478
I would love to know if i can just get all my toons on a server i want not a server im told to play in....I pay to play the game where i want not where im told

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Doomla
07.23.2012 , 02:25 PM | #479
A quick question on my part which i think allot of people are asking, is "will server transfer become more flexible?"? An example is my characters originated from Cho Mai a PvP server, but our destination server is "the fatman" from the server having a bad rep for trolling,flaming wars and camping by opposite factions by lvl 50s ganking lvl 17-30s will we see other options open up eventually for us for example instead of PvP server to PvP server but an option to choose a PvP server or a PvE server for destination? As allot can change when we started on the old PvP server and allot of us do not want to deal with having a server where are gameplay becomes disrupted at the expense of some persons amusement.

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Cirinia
07.23.2012 , 03:47 PM | #480
Right now I'm not interested in moving my characters to different server due to my work related time issues: I can play and stay logged for long time but I have to be ready to go afk anytime for undefined period of time, which naturally cripples group play.
I'm enjoying uncovering each class story and creating crafting alts network at the same time. I'm not sure how high population server will affect that (daily missions for example).

I'm not sure what will happen to Dune Bantha server but if You do want to shut it down at last move all my alts to the same place. I can survive name/legacy changes but not destruction of my crafting network