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Did they just...stop caring or something?

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Did they just...stop caring or something?

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Tiek
07.22.2012 , 08:30 AM | #21
wasnt there just a post about this yesterday? and the 50 days before that? who knows, maybe it means they are closing the servers down tomorrow.

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Deluged
07.22.2012 , 08:47 AM | #22
They are trying to figure out what to do. Its like the boss said, "Ok, until we know ourselves whats going on, no one communicates with the player base". Silence of the Devs.

I think they are all still a bit in shock on how the games popularity has gone. They thought this was a slam dunk, how could it not be...We have a great ip, and we, Bioware, being the best company in the World...recipe for greatness..

Bam, the game is perceived and commented on as a mediocre at best attempt at their first MMO.

When you thought you couldn't make a better game and you find out people dont agree with you, what can you do?
I wouldn't be surprised with the tone of the next big announcement being extremely defeatist and admitting they're wrong.
You can't keep expecting people to keep their heads buried in the sand. They have to come up for air at some point.
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Sammennn
07.22.2012 , 08:50 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by aurellian View Post
Ah I see, so you're comparing a game in BETA to a game that's LIVE. That doesn't seem like a fair comparison to me because you don't know how that beta game is going to perform once its live.
To be honest GW2 has transfers even at BETA while SWTOR struggled pushing out transfers months after release.

Deal with it.

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GooseGrims
07.22.2012 , 09:02 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by aurellian View Post
Ah I see, so you're comparing a game in BETA to a game that's LIVE. That doesn't seem like a fair comparison to me because you don't know how that beta game is going to perform once its live.

As for all these "firings" everyone keeps talking about, over half of those people who were supposedly "let go" were actually on contracts and their contracts ended. That means a lot of those people KNEW their jobs with Bioware were going to be ending. You are right in claiming that some of the staff didn't know they were going to be terminated, but a lot of them did. As for the contracted people, its not a bad sign at all. When you hire someone to build a wall for you, once the wall is finished you don't keep them on staff. They get hired by someone else to build another wall.

And again, you keep speaking about this lack of communication, but the head of the new community team LITERALLY just did an in-depth interview about the state of the new community team around the 11th of this month. You know they were busy getting ready for Comic-con as well over the last few weeks.
if i was comparing something SWTOR that GW2 couldnt do then it wouldnt be fair, but the fact that a game in BETA is further along in terms of content then a game out for 7 months is just sad.

i would like to see proof thats why they were let go, doesnt seem to me the CEO would be "on contract" to be let go. and i never claimed someone didnt know they were losing there job, i said they fired the community team and the new one started out nice and now only posts to say they are closing threads. idk what you consider a good sign but when the CEO leaves/gets canned its not good.

sry but that is a lack of communication, i doubt anyone gives a flying womprats *** about the "state of the community team" we want info about the game we are paying for not the community team that is ignoring us and not even trying to asnwer the big issues.
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grandmthethird
07.22.2012 , 09:10 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Sammennn View Post
To be honest GW2 has transfers even at BETA while SWTOR struggled pushing out transfers months after release.

Deal with it.
every1 seems to forget that the swtor that went live is not the swtor ppl played in beta, yet every1 thinks GW2 will be?

*edit* also GW2 is F2P, if it was sub i could understand ppl saying it would steal swtors subs but with it being F2P, i think ppl will simply have both, i wouldn't play and pay for 2 sub based games but i would for one GW2 doesn't change that
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GooseGrims
07.22.2012 , 09:15 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by grandmthethird View Post
every1 seems to forget that the swtor that went live is not the swtor ppl played in beta, yet every1 thinks GW2 will be?
ignorant post is ignorant
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Sanen
07.22.2012 , 09:15 AM | #27
ppl ppl let bioware do what they do they just put out a class feedback post on all the classes and they was just in comic-con so they wont be talking to us much. They are working hard to put out some new stuff for us so if u are bored or just have nothing else to do in the game untill then lvl an alt or just take a break from the game until the content comes out cuz i personally will be taking a week or two off from swtor for gw2 next month.
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Lyaise
07.22.2012 , 09:15 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by aurellian View Post
This is the same argument we hear every day and I just feel like it's an uninformed argument. You can't claim the developer team doesn't communicate when there's a weekly Q&A where they directly answer questions from the players. You can't say the developers don't communicate with the players when they have already held a guild summit in which over 300 players got the opportunity to sit down face to face with the developers and speak to them. The developers are constantly releasing news on twitter and facebook. They even have an official podcast in which they detail upcoming plans for the game and a myriad of other topics that concern the players.

As far as content is concerned, in 7 months we've seen a dynamic event, a new warzone, a new operation, a new flashpoint, and a new questing area for dailies on Corellia. We've also seen plans for a new quest line (HK-51) a new space mission, a new planet and a new species.

Seriously, I don't understand the internet's impatience with gaming. Sometimes I think the only way to satisfy the internet when it comes to MMOs is to release 50 years worth of content on day one and then another 50 on day 2 because by then all your "hardcore" gamers will have burned through half that day 1 content already.
The situation with every mmo is that it is competing with all the others out there, and consequently judged against them.
Unfortunately for modern developers all new mmo's are compared with others that have been out for several years.
Of course, it is ok for a new game to have lesser content than well established others, on the understanding that this will be increased steadily and frequently over a period of months. However, a game that launches with near zero end game progression interest (which is different than just repeat daily content) is bound to suffer severe number drop off once the players find this out.
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Angedechu
07.22.2012 , 09:18 AM | #29
Oh boy, I can't wait to see the GW2 lovers getting in GW2.

They were the ones, around last yeard, that flamed WoW saying it ''sucked compared to TOR''

Now they flame TOR.

And after, they will flame GW2.

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kevlarto
07.22.2012 , 09:24 AM | #30
I am going to play devil's advocate here just for fun.

We have not heard anything about 1.4 for a while now, lack of communiction in the forums and even the dev tracker has been dry of dev response.
The only video from comic con was a very short clip of HK-51, and I know from past experience with Bioware they like to make big news at huge events like Comic Con, and this was not all that big of a news story.
Little talk about F2p, here and there. At least 2 rounds of lay offs. Things appear to not be that rosey in EA/Bioware land.
Some projects that were in the works.

World PVP re-vamp had a team on it does it still have a team on it ?
Space re-vamp is it still going on ?
The Doctor showed us up coming content at E3, how has the lay offs effected this or has it ?

Now I think they have shifted there attention to making the game a F2p model of some kind, we now have free play to level 15 in place.
I think 1.4 will be way later this year and will bring with it the first part of the Micro Transaction store, along with the free to play model, all that stuff the Dr. talked about at E3 will be in the store.

Like I said this is just a speculation post kinda based on my years of experience playing mmo's, all I know is when the dev's go silent, 99% of the time huge game changes are coming.

Just playing the Devil's advocate here, for fun, so add to this theory or flame it, does not matter it is not even my opinion..
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