Enough is enough!

Nobody is crying...once again...people obviously do not read a damn thing before they post. If you had actually read the damn thread through, you would know this. You obviously are not even remotely aware of what the thread is about. So I'm finished posting on this thread, because nobody is even reading the damn thing.

Let me type this in bold capital print so nobody else has an excuse to be ignorant of what the intent of this thread was...


DO THE DEVS CONSIDER THIS GRIEFING EVEN ON A PVP SERVER!?!?!? I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK IT IS, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE DEVS CONSIDER IT. IS THIS WORTH REPORTING TO THE DEVS OR IS IT SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH OURSELVES!?!?

Now if me asking that question, and describing the events that took place that brought me to ask that question is "crying" then I obviously have no clue of what the definition of "crying" is. Which would mean I am too stupid to understand the English Language and have no business posting threads on the internet.

This! Totally 100% this.

The main reason that people even do these things is to try to engender world pvp skirmishes which are much more interesting and dynamic than the arena/instance style PvP that games like WoW and even moreso SWTOR try to force us into to. My guild did exactly this sort of thing in WoW and Warhammer (and if they played swtor I am quite certain they would be doing it here) These were organized world PvP guild events and had nothing to do with griefing but with trying to bring about world PvP and to try to force the other side to organize and counter us.

The fact that today's MMO gamer comes on to game forums and cries about this sort of thing when there is a suitable and perfect fix for it (rolling PvE) is just outrageous. It's like joining a chess club and then insisting that everyone play checkers because you don't like to play chess.


Actually, crying is EXACTLY what you are doing. The Devs have already spoken on this. Clearly and without any ambiguity. The warning message that pops up when you click on a PvP server says that they will not 'intervene/consider griefing' anything which can be resolved via PvP (I am paraphrasing). Since your group or your guild could repeatedly kill the so-called griefers until the stopped or got sick of dying, you clearly have a PvP solution. So, NOT griefing (if you choose to frame this with that label).

/sigh

I give up...it's like talking to a brick wall...

Maybe you should report the brick wall for griefing.

I agree that the OP should find a way around it---maybe gather a bunch of players who are all apparently having this problem and fight back. That said, yep, the Republic fights dirty. They have no shame. :P

And before the clueless OP responds to me directly (if he hasn't fled this thread already because of the post griefing he is getting): you clearly belong on a PVE server. You don't think you do, but you do. You think you like PvP, but you really don't. That someone would even start a thread to ask if something l ike this is griefing shows a complete lack of understanding of the concepts involved (see my previous chess/checkers analogy). A PvPer relishes an opportunity for world PvP in a game that sorely lacks it. A PvEer starts a thread asking if a cool opportunity like this is considered griefing by the game developers (when they already covered it) and then claims he isn't complaining when he gets hog-piled.

The answer to your questions is ... no its not. Just because you want to hear ... yes it is... does not make it so.

lol, that is just too funny you do not think I relish open world PvP. This is why I want Illum back. nuff siad.

You act like you know. Sources please.

Nuff said. Your reponses to the contrary not withstandling. Lots of people claim to like or want things that they really don't, some may not even realize it. This entire thread and it's title tell us your true nature. The first stage is acceptance.