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Swtor Same sex romances, what happened?

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utio
07.21.2012 , 07:17 AM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by Ganhob View Post
I wouldn't say its law so much as it is just going to be implemented. I would also speculate that if the feature is added then a content feature should be added for parents who do not want their children subjected to it. However just because BW says it is going to be implemented does not mean it will be as desirable as you all think. In fact we have all seen how the romancing is in the game currently. So in all actuality I would be willing to bet that the story line will be no different then it is currently, but you will be able to have the romance so to speak with the same sex or the option to not. Key in on where I said my speculation.
I don't speak for all, but just to have the same storyline, with a gay option, is all I'm asking for. Nothing more.
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Wraiven
07.21.2012 , 07:25 AM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by utio View Post
His post suggests being gay is wrong, that it will harm children if they are subjected to a storyline I
involving something gay. That's a homophobic, uneducated attitude. One that shouldn't be tolerated because its an opinion. There are lots of people out there with opinions they know are very very wrong.

If subs drop due to the gay option, option that is, as in it's not being forced upon anyone, then I would be flabbergasted.
I'm sorry, when did I give you permission to speak for me? Don't ever act as if you are my personal spokesperson and start answering questions for me. You aren't that bright.

Now, before I defend myself here, since you have decided to attack me, I want to start by saying that I never wanted to have to go in to detail about my thoughts on the subject. Being discreet was simple, easy and plenty enough without being political. But allas, you would not allow it by attempting to place words in my mouth that were not my own. Congratulations. Now, with no further delay, allow me to speak for myself...

What I "suggest" as you so like to say, is that kids do not need to be getting any ideas that being gay is encouraged. If you are gay, fine. But to push kids in that direction by subjecting them to gay sexuality at such an impressionable age, is dangerous. Being gay is something that people accept because that's you and that is how you are. We can accept that as long as it is something you keep to yourself and don't flaunt it upon people who are attracted to the opposite sex. I do not want my daughter desensitized at a young age and thinking that playing with other girls is ok, because "the people in the game do it" or "the people on TV do it, so it must be ok for me to do too, this is what grown ups do".

As far as me being "homophobic"? I have a half brother who is VERY gay, I can not tell you how many people I had to beat the piss out of to protect him due to his sexual preference. Don't go telling me that I am homophobic. I take EXTREME offense to that.

As far as you thinking "There are lots of people out there with opinions they know are very very wrong." in reference to my statement, do not presume to think you know me and my morals and where I stand. I do not think I am wrong, I do not know I am wrong. I stand by my convictions, sir.

It was you jumping to conclusions that brought this conversation to an area I feel it should have never went. It was you being on the defensive that brought this about and it is you who obviously have a phobia to homophobics so severely, that you can no longer tell the difference anymore between a man speaking his small opinion, and a man who fears what he does not understand.

Good day to you and yours, sir. Hope this clears out any doubt in your mind where my stand point of view lies.
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utio
07.21.2012 , 07:34 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraiven View Post
I'm sorry, when did I give you permission to speak for me? Don't ever act as if you are my personal spokesperson and start answering questions for me. You aren't that bright.

Now, before I defend myself here, since you have decided to attack me, I want to start by saying that I never wanted to have to go in to detail about my thoughts on the subject. Being discreet was simple, easy and plenty enough without being political. But allas, you would not allow it by attempting to place words in my mouth that were not my own. Congratulations. Now, with no further delay, allow me to speak for myself...

What I "suggest" as you so like to say, is that kids do not need to be getting any ideas that being gay is encouraged. If you are gay, fine. But to push kids in that direction by subjecting them to gay sexuality at such an impressionable age, is dangerous. Being gay is something that people accept because that's you and that is how you are. We can accept that as long as it is something you keep to yourself and don't flaunt it upon people who are attracted to the opposite sex. I do not want my daughter desensitized at a young age and thinking that playing with other girls is ok, because "the people in the game do it" or "the people on TV do it, so it must be ok for me to do too, this is what grown ups do".

As far as me being "homophobic"? I have a half brother who is VERY gay, I can not tell you how many people I had to beat the piss out of to protect him due to his sexual preference. Don't go telling me that I am homophobic. I take EXTREME offense to that.

As far as you thinking "There are lots of people out there with opinions they know are very very wrong." in reference to my statement, do not presume to think you know me and my morals and where I stand. I do not think I am wrong, I do not know I am wrong. I stand by my convictions, sir.

It was you jumping to conclusions that brought this conversation to an area I feel it should have never went. It was you being on the defensive that brought this about and it is you who obviously have a phobia to homophobics so severely, that you can no longer tell the difference anymore between a man speaking his small opinion, and a man who fears what he does not understand.

Good day to you and yours, sir. Hope this clears out any doubt in your mind where my stand point of view lies.
Did you or did you not say that there should be a warning for parents that gay content was in the game? Just a simple yes or no will clear it up.
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BiggusBennus
07.21.2012 , 07:38 AM | #104
Hey, if you don't want your character to have a same-sex relationship then don't flirt with a member of the same sex. It's not 'thrusting minority politics' in your face, it's about including everybody. Adding same-sex relationships isn't taking anything away from those who want heterosexual relationships.

And to those who say there should be a parental control filter, filtering out any possibility of a gay relationship, you seriously need to wake up. People are born gay or are born straight. Seeing the possibility of a same-sex relationship on SWTOR will influence their sexuality as much as looking at an orange will turn you into a piece of fruit.

And there's me thinking us gamer geeks were the intelligent ones with open minds.

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Baphomet_x
07.21.2012 , 07:40 AM | #105
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraiven View Post
I'm sorry, when did I give you permission to speak for me? Don't ever act as if you are my personal spokesperson and start answering questions for me. You aren't that bright.

Now, before I defend myself here, since you have decided to attack me, I want to start by saying that I never wanted to have to go in to detail about my thoughts on the subject. Being discreet was simple, easy and plenty enough without being political. But allas, you would not allow it by attempting to place words in my mouth that were not my own. Congratulations. Now, with no further delay, allow me to speak for myself...

What I "suggest" as you so like to say, is that kids do not need to be getting any ideas that being gay is encouraged. If you are gay, fine. But to push kids in that direction by subjecting them to gay sexuality at such an impressionable age, is dangerous. Being gay is something that people accept because that's you and that is how you are. We can accept that as long as it is something you keep to yourself and don't flaunt it upon people who are attracted to the opposite sex. I do not want my daughter desensitized at a young age and thinking that playing with other girls is ok, because "the people in the game do it" or "the people on TV do it, so it must be ok for me to do too, this is what grown ups do".

As far as me being "homophobic"? I have a half brother who is VERY gay, I can not tell you how many people I had to beat the piss out of to protect him due to his sexual preference. Don't go telling me that I am homophobic. I take EXTREME offense to that.

As far as you thinking "There are lots of people out there with opinions they know are very very wrong." in reference to my statement, do not presume to think you know me and my morals and where I stand. I do not think I am wrong, I do not know I am wrong. I stand by my convictions, sir.

It was you jumping to conclusions that brought this conversation to an area I feel it should have never went. It was you being on the defensive that brought this about and it is you who obviously have a phobia to homophobics so severely, that you can no longer tell the difference anymore between a man speaking his small opinion, and a man who fears what he does not understand.

Good day to you and yours, sir. Hope this clears out any doubt in your mind where my stand point of view lies.
this is what i imagine bioware saying to you

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Wraiven
07.21.2012 , 07:46 AM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by utio View Post
Did you or did you not say that there should be a warning for parents that gay content was in the game? Just a simple yes or no will clear it up.
This is not a court of law where you can take people's comments out of context to bend it in a way that forces that statement to fit your point. This is the internet and unlike a court of law, I have a freedom to give the answer within it's context. Yes. Reading my quoted post that you have should be very clear as to why I feel there should be a warning label on the games that depict gay sexual themed content.
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Wraiven
07.21.2012 , 07:48 AM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by Baphomet_x View Post
this is what i imagine bioware saying to you

I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world … without tradition. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries; a world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.

Ummm. riiiight. Now, back to reality...
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utio
07.21.2012 , 07:50 AM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraiven View Post
This is not a court of law where you can take people's comments out of context to bend it in a way that forces that statement to fit your point. This is the internet and unlike a court of law, I have a freedom to give the answer within it's context. Yes. Reading my quoted post that you have should be very clear as to why I feel there should be a warning label on the games that depict gay sexual themed content.
And what are your views on the violence in the game? Is that ok? Children are ok to watch, even participate in torture too? I'm not arguing law here, I'm reacting to your statements. If you're unhappy with that I'm sorry, but don't write stuff if you don't want anything other than a positive response.

Edit, also, you take extreme offence at being called homophobic, whilst at the same time saying you don't want your daughter to be subjected to anything homosexual, also stating that you think it's ok but don't want it thrust in your face, and hinting that you believe it's a choice? You're the worst kind of homophobe, because you are causing the offence, doing the damage, and you have no idea that you're doing it.
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Baphomet_x
07.21.2012 , 07:51 AM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraiven View Post
This is not a court of law where you can take people's comments out of context to bend it in a way that forces that statement to fit your point. This is the internet and unlike a court of law, I have a freedom to give the answer within it's context. Yes. Reading my quoted post that you have should be very clear as to why I feel there should be a warning label on the games that depict gay sexual themed content.
you just dont get it do you...bioware`s word is LAW,they have already said they will do this,so its a matter of when...and if youll look into bioware`s other games,they have a habit of adding same sex relationships and even love scenes..and those games in that regard only got the rating for "sexual themes"

the past can be used to tell the future in this case....and the future is bright for me and my kind
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Baphomet_x
07.21.2012 , 07:52 AM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraiven View Post
Ummm. riiiight. Now, back to reality...
if youve ever seen the matrix youll know what i mean by quoting that
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