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PanikSpreder
07.20.2012 , 07:35 AM | #11
George Lucas wanted the original to be more light on the audience (maybe even kids friendly) rather then portraying one of the main characters as a cold blooded killer. Never the less, its one of the reasons we love Han Solo in the original from 1977 - he doesn't take any *brown stuff that bulls drop* from anybody!

Basically, he pulled a Steven Spielberg with all that cash and too few people around him to tell him the truth.

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Captain_Zone
07.20.2012 , 03:53 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by PanikSpreder View Post
George Lucas wanted the original to be more light on the audience (maybe even kids friendly) rather then portraying one of the main characters as a cold blooded killer. Never the less, its one of the reasons we love Han Solo in the original from 1977 - he doesn't take any *brown stuff that bulls drop* from anybody!

Basically, he pulled a Steven Spielberg with all that cash and too few people around him to tell him the truth.
It's a case of George having too many "Yes" people and not enough "Are you sure that's a good idea, sir?" people.
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Gabrielnz
07.20.2012 , 04:43 PM | #13
There is a really good fan made remastered copy done that restores the Han shooting first scene, some of the music decisions are a bit annoying but overall he did an awesome job on it.

Google: Star Wars Remastered and you should find it.
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Kyriosgundam
07.20.2012 , 06:50 PM | #15
To be honest and this is from someone who grew up with the originals and enjoyed the special edition versions. To me as long as the end result is Greedo fried extra crispy it really shouldnt matter who shot first. Plus with some knowlege of CGI (Computer Generated Imagery) and how it is done it is alot harder to redo or improve existing movie frames than it is to do it during filming. That is something people dont always take into account when complaining about a change. I mean in the end Greedo still ended up dead and all the changes they made were supposed to be done the first time they filmed the movies except for the fact that they ran out of time Lucas even said this in a interview just after the Special Edition versions of the Original Trilogy hit the theaters.
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Captain_Zone
07.20.2012 , 10:34 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Kyriosgundam View Post
To be honest and this is from someone who grew up with the originals and enjoyed the special edition versions. To me as long as the end result is Greedo fried extra crispy it really shouldnt matter who shot first. Plus with some knowlege of CGI (Computer Generated Imagery) and how it is done it is alot harder to redo or improve existing movie frames than it is to do it during filming. That is something people dont always take into account when complaining about a change. I mean in the end Greedo still ended up dead and all the changes they made were supposed to be done the first time they filmed the movies except for the fact that they ran out of time Lucas even said this in a interview just after the Special Edition versions of the Original Trilogy hit the theaters.
George has backpedalled, contradicted himself, and outright lied in a dozen or more interviews and commentaries over the years. When the first revisions came out, Han still shot first, but Greedo got in a reaction shot as he died. Ok, most of us could live with that. The kicker was when he made Greedo shoot first. That nullified the original story of Han evolving from cold-blooded mercenary into an actual hero with a cause to believe in. That scene set the stage for that. It showed everyone that Han was not a nice guy. Seriously, if George always planned it so Han shot after Greedo, he could have done it in the first revision. His lie that he always intended for it to be that way was obvious when taken in the context of the OT, 1st Revision OT, and 2nd Revision OT. Watch that scene in all 3, and you'll see what I mean.

It's a sad thing when an author retcons his own work.

EDIT: Especially when he does interviews while wearing a T-shirt that says "Han Shot First" on it!
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Shivalka: Darth Baras is quite large, isn't he?
Joran Karn: You, my dear Sith, have just mastered the art of understatement.

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RixoFutu
07.21.2012 , 07:21 AM | #17
This.
"Once, I thought myself a monster. I played in rivers of blood and laughed as innocents quaked. Yet when I touched the Dread Masters, I saw that my darkness was but a shadow of true depravity."