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What is going on BioWare ??


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Dein_Cathair
07.19.2012 , 02:00 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by pipda View Post
Three top people have left since launch and there has been two rounds of layoffs. That does not indicate a healthy studio or game service. Not to mention their public release/development schedule looks pretty bare. There is literally nothing on the calender for TOR at this point...NOTHING. Not even a list of features they "hope" to include in patch 1.4, let alone a round about date. All we know is the stuff from the E3 video and that stuff doesn't even have a year pinned down as the release date.

Stephen Reid <- Fired in layoffs in May
Georg Zoeller <- Fired..maybe...I think yes.
Rich Vogel <- "left" Bioware
Seems kinda like a fail thread.
I could say my HS is/was better than yours: Churchill is always > than Franklin!.
Or that I am > than bioware.

But who cares.

it's results that matter. If certain people are not contributing in a positive way, they need to go.... period.
I don't care about their names, I want results. The game is bleeding players, if they need new people so be it.
Who cares about the past? not me, I look to the future and hope they fix the problems.

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Holden_Dissent
07.19.2012 , 02:07 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Dein_Cathair View Post
Seems kinda like a fail thread.
I could say my HS is/was better than yours: Churchill is always > than Franklin!.
Or that I am > than bioware.

But who cares.

it's results that matter. If certain people are not contributing in a positive way, they need to go.... period.
I don't care about their names, I want results. The game is bleeding players, if they need new people so be it.
Who cares about the past? not me, I look to the future and hope they fix the problems.
You started out strong and I liked where you were going until you said the game is bleeding players. Which it's not. Based on facts.

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Dein_Cathair
07.19.2012 , 02:27 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Holden_Dissent View Post
You started out strong and I liked where you were going until you said the game is bleeding players. Which it's not. Based on facts.
Imo it is, we will see the #'s soon enuf.

I base it on how the population seems smaller since a few weeks have passed since the initial transfers took place.
It is harder once again to get groups and the pvp queues seem slower to me. I tend to play in off peak hours as I play elsewhere in peak times.

But neither of us can tell until the numbers are posted.

But hey, I do want to help so I'll throw them a bone today. post inc in suggestions

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AWDBAHL
07.19.2012 , 02:29 PM | #44
Why do people base their rating of a game on what is happening to the company that developed it?

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Logisitcs
07.19.2012 , 02:29 PM | #45
How hard is it to go
Quote:
"Hey guys, this is what we have planned for the year and the milestones were HOPING (no guarantees) to reach:
August - Here's whats planned
September - Were working on this
October - This is being released
November - Were planning on doing this
December - Were gonna try and shoot for this
2012 - A lot of cool things we have working on, such as........
Remember guys all of these are projections and estimations, but we don't wanna keep you guys in the dark because we love you!"
It's not hard and certainly reassures people like me that hey somethings being worked on instead of just getting the generic Soon™. Soon™ was 7 months ago!

And some CGI video of a character I don't give two ***** about isn't going to cut it anymore.
FFS SE issued an apology letter, detailed the internal changes that would happen and offered F2P. The new guy in charge sent out polls and listened to feedback, delivered monthly newsletters detailing what's ahead and what's being worked on and even a detailed development road map complete with concept art. I'm not saying Bioware should issue apologies and give out free time, but some openess about things would go a very long way!

And those Q&A's aren't cutting it! Did a question like this REALLY needed to be answered:
Sindorin: When you're discussing a new planet, what sort of criteria do you guys lay out for the design process? How do you determine what's in or out, and what sort of backstory or lore goes into it?

I just want real answers, time frames, road maps- I'm not asking for the moon, a simple blog post would do. Everyone else does it, why not you Bioware?

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JediCahlwyn
07.19.2012 , 02:32 PM | #46
OP why don't you play the game and not worry about internet gossip? Nothing is "going on" its business as usual.
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HarleysRule
07.19.2012 , 02:33 PM | #47
EA doesn't do full F2P/freemium model like LotRO, AFAIK. When I see DAoC and UO go F2P, I'll believe it might happen for TOR.

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You started out strong and I liked where you were going until you said the game is bleeding players. Which it's not. Based on facts.
So...you think they still have 1.3 million subs...actual subs, and not up to level 15 froobs? I don't. I bet 900k tops, which is still respectable, but still a pretty hefty drop.

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Urael
07.19.2012 , 02:34 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Logisitcs View Post
How hard is it to go
.......
I just want real answers, time frames, road maps- I'm not asking for the moon, a simple blog post would do. Everyone else does it, why not you Bioware?
Dude, the typical MMO "community" would QQ so hard if those milestones weren't met. Even, IF they put a caveat/disclaimer to manage expectations.

People would see the milestone as a certainty even if it was only a planned event.

So basically any game company is darned if they do and darned if they don't.

But it would be helpful if they communitcated more .... I mean what happend they WERE doing so well?

Did the community team get laid off this week?

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Kharnis
07.19.2012 , 02:57 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
Dude, the typical MMO "community" would QQ so hard if those milestones weren't met. Even, IF they put a caveat/disclaimer to manage expectations.

People would see the milestone as a certainty even if it was only a planned event.

So basically any game company is darned if they do and darned if they don't.

But it would be helpful if they communitcated more .... I mean what happend they WERE doing so well?

Did the community team get laid off this week?
Who cares if there are people who would complain that some milestones weren't met? How is that any worse than now, when you have a great deal of people who are uncertain about the future of the game and are wondering if it's worth their while to continue pumping money into this game but the devs refuse to talk to us? Can you not see how it's far more damaging to the longevity of the game to keep all of your customers in the dark about the future direction the game is hopefully going to go than it is to maybe anger some people who irrationally think a desire for a feature at some unspecified date is somehow a promise for a specific patch?

If you can't, then I submit that it's not us who are the problem with this game. This pathological need for secrecy on the part of the devs is what is going to kill this game if they don't get their act together. This is a game, not issues of national security. If they won't tell us what they hope to implement in the very near, near, and somewhat distant futures, they have no one but themselves to blame when their customers and gaming sites begin to question if there even is anything to implement, or even if they can. And they definitely have no one but themselves to blame when they can't seem to attract new customers in sufficient numbers to offset the ones who are leaving.
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pipda
07.19.2012 , 03:02 PM | #50
This Thread + Baghdad Bob meme generator = More fun than TOR.

And to whomever wonders why people care about what the future holds it is because MMOs are a investment in time, people like to know it won't be a waste in a few months. Only have so much time ya know. TOR maybe fun now...but what about a week or three from now? It also generates hype and keeps people excited and makes new people feel like they are missing out and need to go play.

Look at STO, like every five minutes they are putting some bit of info out.