Why do you not play ranked PvP?

We use a shadow when we have one online, otherwise we don't. We even use a dps shadow because he is so boss that he does VG lvl dps.

In the class comparison ladder. Shadows are in the top 3. So if you think shadows are useless, then lols @ you.

A variety of reasons actually

1) getting a group of 8 together can be a pain with my guild because most of them don't like to PvP

2) The two ranked games I played were all marauders and powertechs. Those classes backed by descent healers just dominate everything...and they don't even have to try

3) They are kind of silly. Why should I bang my head against the wall for differently colored gear that looks horrible no matter what way you paint it.

I would play them if I had a group to do so, but otherwise I find them to be a stupid addition to rather pointless pvp

^ QFT

Shadows are amazing in Ranked, I can't even fathom why someone would think otherwise lol.

I've got two 50s in full WH now. It's not hard to gear up when you do RWZs. The comms come faster. Everyone that has been playing casually (like a couple hours a day) since 1.2 came out has one 50 full WH geared by now.

This is a great point. Most players pull the WH mods and put them into other moddable gear to come up with a cooler, more distinct look thanks to the set bonuses transferring with the armoring mods. I rarely see anyone wearing the standard PvP gear anymore, regardless of its color.

This also goes hand in hand with a point I made about the issue with incentives for RWZs. If you're full WH already, you're not doing it for the gear. You're either playing them for fun (which they typically are not), or for Epeen. In some cases, you might be doing it for the unique colored crystals you need Rating to use, but I personally am not going to go through all the trouble of doing that just so that I can have purple-black lightsabers.

We do them so we can gear out alts as well.

1. Purchase legacy gear from capital city on alt.
2. Mail to main.
3. Buy WH gear with main, pull out mods, put them in legacy gear.
4. Mail legacy gear to alt.
5. ???
6. Profit

People actually buy the legacy gear?

Cause man, I like the sniper/agent legacy 20 gear but the money...meh. I can't make myself do it yet.

Wrong. It's about the same if you get rolled you can expect to get about 30-40 in rated. A win in regular can get you 120+. So it's a wash, and people generally prefer not to get completely rolled.

Wrong... the fact that this is pre-season is no state secret. Everyone is aware that it is pre-season, but having a 1200 team go against a 2200+ team is not fun or competitive.

Wrong again. A 1200 vs. a 2200+ is a foregone conclusion... they are just going to get owned and spend majority of the time in the dugout. The skill difference compounded by the gear differences will not yield enough time on the field to learn anything.

The problem with rateds at the moment is it's not competitive because there is no matching in place at all. Until that is addressed people will stay away.

It's actually subjective; I've lost in Rateds and received 59 comms before so...also, you have the "chance" to grab a win, so even if they were "even'ish", why not do a Rated with a chance to win 140+ rated comms? If more players would round up their server peeps, create some groups, etc., not every RWZ would be a lolfaceroll. Instead, too many are scared, and choose to find excuses (see your reply above).

Assuming you're queueing regular + ranked WZ at the same time it should be literally impossible to do worse in terms of ranked WZ acquisition unless you routinely get camped at your spawn point and unable to get a medal in RWZ because triple the rewards for loss (and you can't do worse than losing) is far greater than normal rewards for winning (which you aren't guaranteed to in regular WZ).

Now if you only queue up ranked WZ you can make an argument about whether ranked WZ pops often enough or should you just call your losses and grind it out in regular WZ if it takes 2 hours to pop only to get completely facerolled by a super team. But if you're expecting to get facerolled by opposition I see no reason why you wouldn't queue up for both WZ at the same time since you're clearly trying to maximize the number of games you get.