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CommunitySupport
07.16.2012 , 10:38 AM | #1
Hi everyone,

We’re looking for some specific feedback about each Advanced Class and spec. Your feedback here, along with other feedback we’ve been gathering and our internal metrics, may guide future class balance changes. Similar threads will be found in every Advanced Class forum.

Here are the two questions that we’d like to ask (please only post about specific specs that you actively play, and don’t forget to tell us which one you’re talking about!):

1. How do you think your Sage spec is perceived by other classes?
2. How do you perceive your own spec?

Please answer the post using the same format and in no more than 2-3 sentences per question.

This is not a discussion thread, so please do not debate others’ feedback – everyone gets to share what they think. Any off-topic or unconstructive posts (or any that do not follow the above guidelines) will be removed without warning.

Remember, this isn’t the only thread we’re looking at for feedback – if you have more feedback than fits the above guidelines, please feel free to post a discussion thread. We’re looking to get some specific insights here, but we are always reading the forums to gather feedback and player concerns.

Thank you!

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djrobb
07.16.2012 , 10:55 AM | #2
My sage is laughed at in this game which is why i had to retire him for now. I percieve the class as very fun to play but not competitive with most of the other dps classes. A saber reflect ability is needed for the times when you have 3 burst dps on you trying to 3 shot you.

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DarthTHC
07.16.2012 , 11:03 AM | #3
I'm specced as a healing sage and I frequently raid with my guild and run LFG hard-modes as often as possible.

1. How do you think your Sage spec is perceived by other classes?

The Sage Healer seems to be well-liked and desired. Which means you're going to nerf us so let me change that to say my spec sucks and I have to fight off getting vote-kicked in LFG groups.

2. How do you perceive your own spec?

I enjoy my spec for group play. For the most part healing groups and raids is pretty mundane, but it does have its "uh oh" moments when you really have to think, plan, and work hard.

Healing really starts to suck for fights that require a lot of movement. I can bubble everyone and I can cast my HOT when it's off cooldown and that's it. Very weak. Especially when compared to other healers who can cast much of their arsenal on the fly.

I would enjoy my healing spec for solo play if any companion besides Qyzen were able to hold aggro during it. This is a fault in the companion system, not the class/spec.
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Master-Nala
07.16.2012 , 11:09 AM | #4
Answers from perspective of Balance sage

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1. How do you think your Sage spec is perceived by other classes?
As a DoT Damage/Crowd Control class that can throw a bubble or heal in a pinch. Not considered competitive for damage.

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2. How do you perceive your own spec?
I see the spec more as a crowd control type character and wish that the end ability was more control focused. The spec winds up with too many DoTs and the final ability doesn't appear worth it. Telekinetic Throw is so key to this spec that it does tend to crowd out my other abilities.

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DarthTexas
07.16.2012 , 11:09 AM | #5
Play as a heal-specced sage.

1. How do you think your Sage spec is perceived by other classes?
As the most well rounded and straight-forward of the healing classes. Indispensable in ops content due to Salvation.

2. How do you perceive your own spec?
Great versatility as a healer, but have to spend way too much time and effort focusing on force-management and worrying about running out of force power.

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Thoffs
07.16.2012 , 11:12 AM | #6
I'm specced as a healing sage (has Salvation) and I frequently raid with my guild (cleared EC SM, working on EC HM) and run FP hard-modes daily for BH comms. I do not PvP -- gave that up after 1.2 sage healer changes because of long cast times.

1. How do you think your Sage spec is perceived by other classes?

The Sage Healer seems to be well-liked and desired in PvE.

2. How do you perceive your own spec?

I enjoy it, but find force management to be difficult during long fights with constant damage and movement. I have adjusted to the 1.2 Sage healing nerfs in PvE, but any more healing nerfs and I may throw in the towel on sage healing.

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Gnoblesse
07.16.2012 , 11:12 AM | #7
1. How do you think your Sage spec is perceived by other classes?

I wouldn't run my Sage spec in PvE - I don't have Salvation (I'm 21/20/0 for PvP survivability) - and Salvation is pretty much THE reason you bring a Sage in PvE. Full Seer spec seems to be much in demand, though.

In terms of PvP - seems to be "bring a sage healer if you can't find a smuggler healer. SO SQUISHY."

2. How do you perceive your own spec?

Harder to kill than a full seer spec, but still lacking an actual defensive cooldown.

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Felioats
07.16.2012 , 11:40 AM | #8
I am Seer spec.

1. I think others see me as an oddity, or perhaps a martyr, but they are grateful that someone is doing what I do, even if they don't understand why.

2. I see my spec as a humdrum healbot from last-gen MMOs, the player who developers -- uncertain how else to handle healing -- sacrifice, dooming them to staring at health bars so that others may play their game.

I play Seer anyway because I enjoy a support role. But other games have done it without preventing me from watching/participating in the action.

Furthermore: I hate that no matter how I spec, my lightsaber, the most awesome and coolest weapon in the galaxy, is a stat stick.
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Mathewt
07.16.2012 , 11:47 AM | #9
1. I haven't really discussed it with others much.

2. I love my Balance Sage. I feel like it's a perfect solo spec, with the ability to lift multiple enemies giving me the chance to pace my combat and stay alive.

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Aikiyc
07.16.2012 , 11:55 AM | #10
Healer specced Sage. Primarily a PvPer.

1. How do you think your Sage spec is perceived by other classes?

Weak, low burst, low sustain, too squishy, high in utility that is perhaps redundant in many scenarios. Lackluster and not wanted outside of Voidstar (AoE heal: Salvation), and Huttball (friendly pull: Rescue).

2. How do you perceive your own spec?

Extremely powerful utility healer. But suuuuper high skill cap due to clunky/awkward resource management and Rejuvenate buff (Conveyance), which leads to the outside opinion represented above. In the right hands with a solid teamwork focused team, the sage has THE most effective thorough-put for PvP due to their utility and wide variety of healing abilities, meaning they can fill in for powerful single/double target healing, or multi-target raid healing easily.
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