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Lore wise, which class would win?

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Lore wise, which class would win?

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Aalexi
07.13.2012 , 02:59 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by HellbirdIV View Post
Oh look, another Fandalorian who thinks Mandos are some kind of Mary Sue supermen.



http://images2.fanpop.com/images/pol...26744_full.jpg

Yep. Totally lightsaber proof.
Jessica Simpson is a mandolorian?
And good job on the civilised debate. It's nice when polite people like you come in to resect someone elses opinion and raise the bar

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AshlaBoga
07.13.2012 , 03:03 PM | #92
Jedi Knight.
Specifically the Jedi Guardian.

Why? Because one lightsaber wielding Jedi generally win in the canon (Revan, Obi-Wan, Luke).
The dark is generous, and it is patient, and it always wins.
It always wins because it is everywhere.
The brightest light casts the darkest shadow.
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Captain_Zone
07.13.2012 , 03:32 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by HellbirdIV View Post
Oh look, another Fandalorian who thinks Mandos are some kind of Mary Sue supermen.



http://images2.fanpop.com/images/pol...26744_full.jpg

Yep. Totally lightsaber proof.
And while Jessica Simpson used to be fun to look at, I fail to see what she has to do with this debate. lol
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Kraavick
07.13.2012 , 03:39 PM | #94
Lorewise, I would say the sorceror would win. The sorceror is the master of the dark side of the force, the very essence of destruction. Channeling dark lightning or crushing darkness with a power unmatched, I dont see how anything could defeat them in a "fair" fight. Not to mention, the senses of such a master of the force would be greater than that of the jedi knight or sith warrior, giving him greater warning to assassination attempts.
My question was only rhetorical if I didn't like your answer

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HellbirdIV
07.13.2012 , 04:44 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Aalexi View Post
Jessica Simpson is a mandolorian?
I linked a picture of Mace Windu lopping Jango Fett's head off. Even tested the URL after posting. Must be something with the website I linked from.

I'mma go back and edit the post with a proper upload, thanks for pointing out the glitch.

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Sinemetu
07.13.2012 , 04:45 PM | #96
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'The Green Jedi' are the canon fodder of the Jedi in this game. They don't stand up to 'The Hero of Tython' and are there just to be killed I think...
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It's just a fact that you can't have every single Jedi/Sith NPC in the game be a level 50 Champion boss, so it falls under "Gameplay".

One would assume that you wouldn't argue that killing an angry animal is somehow harder than killing a Mandalorian war veteran, yet there are plenty of animal mobs who far outclass Mandalorian mobs.
Honestly, the gameplay difficulty isn't even central to my point. The fact is that the *game* treats them as easy enemies. You originally get a quest to kill them from a two-bit bounty hunter that doesn't have the stones to fill his own contract. Then you get a couple more quests to kill more of them as an aside, including a bounty-board message. Many mundane enemies are treated as more dangerous than them. It's true that they're just trash mobs, but the point remains that if Bioware is placing trained Jedi out there as trash mobs, that's part of the game world and therefore to some extent part of the lore. That is, they were a speedbump on the PC's way to the temporary conquest of Corellia.

If I were really concerned about the gameplay difficulty, I'd have pointed out any number of elite invincible famous Jedi that also got summarily stomped. Heck, we could get really stupid and set up some kind of duel if we were really talking about gameplay (I promise your Guardian will die slowly and painfully to my Operative healer. There's really no other way to kill people, is there?)

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Here's what I think. I think 9/10 times 'The JK' would beat 'Cipher Nine' and 'The Grand Champion of the Great Hunt'. If you threw them in 100 different possible scenarios and situations The JK' would come out on top most of the time.
My unstated position (since the beginning) is actually "it depends on who is writing the story." Since I'm mentally writing this story, the agent wins.

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Barsen'thor
Hero of Tython
Ace
Unidentified Havoc Squad Commander

VS

Grand Champion of the Great Hunt
Cipher Nine
Darth Nox
"Emperor's Wrath"

...in a 4vs4.

I would have to go with the Empire side, because I think 'Ace' and 'Havok Squad Commander' are outclasses by their counter-parts.
I haven't played the BH, but having played the inquisitor and consular, I'd note that the inquisitor seems more formidable, since most of the class story involves accumulating personal power and fighting to survive rather than building an army and playing diplomat.

I'm probably biased by being disappointed by the consular story. My first two 50s were Empire, so I'm pretty familiar with the stories on that side, so when I play Republic side and run into things like (consular spoilers)

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HellbirdIV
07.13.2012 , 04:52 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Sinemetu View Post
Honestly, the gameplay difficulty isn't even central to my point. The fact is that the *game* treats them as easy enemies.
Well if you want to go that route, the Agent is probably the weakest class in the lore, because of the sheer numbers of Imperial intelligence operatives, snipers, spies and grunts you end up slaughtering through the Republic quests (Only beating out the Trooper by a small margin because the Trooper is supposed to be a Special Forces soldier and Republic SF are rarer as enemy mobs than Imperial Intelligence, but only just).

For the record, my mains are Trooper and Bounty Hunter, not Jedi.

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My unstated position (since the beginning) is actually "it depends on who is writing the story." Since I'm mentally writing this story, the agent wins.
... So your argument is that the Agent wins because you're the kind of writer who disregards the primary canon in favor of making stuff up to support your fan favorite?

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Kaisernick
07.13.2012 , 05:28 PM | #98
oh silly jedi you seem to have forgotten the lesson of HK-47

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sonic grenades sonic screamers cluster rockets plasma charges, mines can also beeffective as many jedi will run to meet you in hand to hand combat, silly jedi.

gas grenades also work provided they effect the skin as well since many jedi can hold their breath but its only useful as a distraction.

energy shield are effective against lightsabers.

thus snipeing and using cover are always advantages

and of course the pasagisim of jedi and sacrfise ie kill their allies.
LINK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPeI4mX8Nus

This all points out to me as the winner would be trooper Bh smugglers or agent.

now who would beat them is anouthr question.

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HellbirdIV
07.13.2012 , 05:33 PM | #99
The point HK-47 makes is that you need all those tools to have a chance against a Jedi, whereas a Jedi (Or Sith) can pretty much just fly up to your face and lop your head off because they feel like it <.<

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Kaisernick
07.13.2012 , 05:45 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by HellbirdIV View Post
The point HK-47 makes is that you need all those tools to have a chance against a Jedi, whereas a Jedi (Or Sith) can pretty much just fly up to your face and lop your head off because they feel like it <.<
he doesnt say you need all of them.

you gain a suprise attack by sniping a jedi you dont need to then use a cluster bomb on his corpse