Vehicles on Fleet need to end.

If they removed vehicles in fleet, that would just be one more reason for me to spend as little time there as possible. Unless, they just give us all a 110% speed buff while on fleet (for those with auto-run on. walk could be the normal speed for RPers). I'd be okay with no vehicles in fleet in that case.

I could get on board with this. Give people the speed buff of a vehicle, but without the vehicle.

I decided to try it out myself, and at that angle the speeder has to be on top of the kiosk and that means the kiosk is available from the other side, behind the grey speeder in his picture. Also, the speeder is still at least 2 feet off the ground, so you can easily tilt your camera to the floor and click under it.

The picture is taken at such an angle as to try and hide this, but the truth is you can not block anything with a speeder.

I hope you reported them for griefing.. because in essence with their childish behavior, that is what they were doing.

Personally I would prefer vehicles to be removed from the fleet. Even though I use mine to get about quicker, I always click off when I reach my destination as I am considerate to others. Shame others don't have my manners.


As with having to mess around with your camera angles to click whatever is being blocked.. why the hell should you have too because some idiot decides its fun to be a jerk. We pay to play this game, we don't pay to stand on the fleet, playing around with camera angles just some kid can get a laugh.. Its bloody rude and extremely frustrating!

Even if you can still click on the darn thing it is still rather annoying to have a big blob of pixels blocking whatever you want to click on purpose by other players.

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Personally, I don't see why they added those obnoxiously large vehicles in the first place. They're the ToR equivelent of civilian Humvees. Large and obnoxious for the sake of being large and obnoxious.

I'd simply suggest the speeder cars should be prohibited on fleet. The smaller speeder/speeder bikes are just fine/no problem.

The overly large vehicles are a nuisance on the Fleet and should be made inoperable while on Fleet.

I love this thread! I've seen many exactly like it, with exactly the same arguments, so clearly there's an issue here.

Let me summarize:
1) There's little doubt that these big speeders are griefing. People have noticed these speeders being in the same place for hours.
2) Some people think it's impossible to click on some icons when a huge speeder is in the way. Others have posted that no box is completely blockable, for example, you can always move your camera UNDER the speeder.
3) Others point out that you shouldn't be REQUIRED to work around a griefer. They're making the game annoying on purpose.
4) Some want speeders banned from the fleet. This seems easy, but would make many gamers angry.
5) Some want only the big speeders banned from the fleet. This seems easy, but see above.
6) Some want a speeder-free area around GTN terminals, mailboxes, etc. This is apparently hard to do.
7) Some want to ban speeders, but give everyone a speed buff on the fleet. This seems easy, and wouldn't be hard to do. It seems like the best possible solution.

BW should choose option 5 or 7, as either one would be easy, stop griefing, and won't make the game worse for anyone except the griefers.

Nah. Just delete them all and give the owners a chicken to ride. Fits their persona.

Edit: a SMALL chicken.