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Poll: For or Against roots respecting resolve bar

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Poll: For or Against roots respecting resolve bar

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richardya
07.13.2012 , 07:55 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by kitsinni View Post
And if this was 1v1 I would agree with you but when you play against 8 classes with that ability and you have one break on a timer that doesn't even help it is absurd.
It is not 1v8 either. It is 8v8.
The root ability is on a cool down and everyone has a breaker. If everyone on a team is chain rooting one guy then the one guy is stuck, similar to how if one guy is focus fired on he dies.
In my opinion.
Ranged classes would be gimped out of the game without this ability.

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NoTomorrow
07.13.2012 , 07:58 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by kitsinni View Post
And if this was 1v1 I would agree with you but when you play against 8 classes with that ability and you have one break on a timer that doesn't even help it is absurd.
You may not yet realize, but root immunity would be very very powerful. I am not sure that ypu ypurself will be happy fighting against enemies that cannot be snared or rooted. I am not sure that even marauders will consider this a good change after playing it for a while.
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kitsinni
07.13.2012 , 08:10 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by NoTomorrow View Post
You may not yet realize, but root immunity would be very very powerful. I am not sure that ypu ypurself will be happy fighting against enemies that cannot be snared or rooted. I am not sure that even marauders will consider this a good change after playing it for a while.
Every game with PvP that I have played has some sort of limited immunity to CC, as well as some type of diminishing returns for CC and usually reduced CC in PvP. I could write out the long list of all the MMOs I have played and beta tested over the last decade but it would make no difference.

I love playing SWTOR but I would have a really hard time making the argument that SWTOR's PvP is better than many other MMOs.
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Darth_Philar
07.13.2012 , 08:13 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by kitsinni View Post
Every game with PvP that I have played has some sort of limited immunity to CC, as well as some type of diminishing returns for CC and usually reduced CC in PvP. I could write out the long list of all the MMOs I have played and beta tested over the last decade but it would make no difference.

I love playing SWTOR but I would have a really hard time making the argument that SWTOR's PvP is better than many other MMOs.
Roots and Snares are not considered CC in SWTOR. They are Kite tools.
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AlyxDinas
07.13.2012 , 08:19 AM | #65
Against. A change would affect too much right now.
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mangarrage
07.13.2012 , 08:22 AM | #66
I am for roots not effecting the resolve bar

As far as I am concerned only a cc that debilitates the player should count toward resolve. You can still attack, can still pass a huttball, etc while rooted or snared therefore should not count

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Pvtcarnage
07.13.2012 , 08:23 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by HelinCarnate View Post
Poll is pointless. Devs already have stated that it is working as intended for roots to be seperate from resolve. Changing it would screw up several specs and make huttball even more of a joke. The best thing BW could do in this case would be to stick to their guns and not give in to the crying on the forums.
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Shlamorel
07.13.2012 , 08:25 AM | #68
As a Jedi Seer with a "dispel" ability, I am ok with roots being allowed and/or not respecting resolve.

I completely understand others may have a different view, especially melee, so I can respect that view as well.

I can only speak from my own perspective, where as a healer that is on the ball, I can dispel many mechanics in PvP that others choose not to dispel, don't know they can dispel, or some other reason... so I think it gives a strategic edge in many cases.
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SinnedWill
07.13.2012 , 09:07 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Huggsnotdruggs View Post
^ this. if you have full resolve you should be straight immune to ERTHANG. however I wouldnt enjoy roots applying to generating resolve.
If you had full immunity with full resolve, melees and close ranged dps characters will run amok - even moreso than they do now. Roots, slows, and stuns annoy everyone, yes, but roots and slows (which are off-resolve) certainly have a far more significant impact on melees and 10m range classes (some more than others). If roots/slows were added into resolve immunity, yet they themselves did not cause resolve to fill, many people would significantly reduce the frequency of their stuns/mezzes in favor of more root-capable class-composed teams and classes that have stuns/knockdowns that tend to fill less resolve (so that they can optimize their chain-stunning so as to kill the enemy out-right for when they DO use stuns).

Now, if they don't do this, they will simply be giving all melees and 10m ranged classes complete immunity to kiting mechanics which will easily result in more people complaining about PT/VG's, Assassins/Shadows (though tank specs are currently the least affected AC by roots/slows), Maras/Sents, and yes... rage/focus specced Jugg/Guardians.

Seriously, do any of you people not realise that warriors/knights cannot use their leaps if they are rooted? Imagine how much more easily (roots are the most effective counter for them when they are at full-resolve, currently, and they still feel as though they're finally closer to being capable of their maximum damage potential when resolve is filled) they'll seriously dominate if when they're at full resolve, there is no possible method to avoid their onslaught.
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vimm
07.13.2012 , 09:09 AM | #70
This isn't a matter of opinion.
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