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Character Transfer, Server Populations, and You (Part II)

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Character Transfer, Server Populations, and You (Part II)
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ghragskull
07.11.2012 , 06:36 PM | #291
Quote: Originally Posted by Aricus View Post
Jesus... Some people are unbelievable. I can't believe some people are so obsessed and upset with just a simple character name. Especially in a setting where you're character's name have very little relevance to others. Have anyone ever told you just a game? You're not naming your child or creating a dynasty here ya know.

personally i just dont want to be on a heavy pop server there is a reason i chose a low pop to begin with.
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Tuscad
07.11.2012 , 07:14 PM | #292
Quote: Originally Posted by Suzina View Post
I don't think you can trust the developers to be honest to players.

There is a PR department to word things for them. PR decided "mergers" were bad but "free transfers" were good. They did this for SWG. "Free transfers, but only from low-to-high population!" It completely killed the origin servers, then they shut them down. It was really unfair that they were dishonest, but developers never report bad news, so they say nothing or they lie.
This makes me think that LucasArts may be calling the shots, or else the PR department is made up of the same people.
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InnerPieces
07.11.2012 , 07:26 PM | #293
Quote: Originally Posted by Tuscad View Post
This makes me think that LucasArts may be calling the shots, or else the PR department is made up of the same people.
I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt LucasArts is putting any sort of input at all into network management or any of the other technical aspects of running an MMO. I think it is more likely LucasArts would concentrate solely on issues directly involving the Intellectual Property that is the Star Wars franchise.

I personally think it is more likely BioWare picked up some of the same people (or use the same PR firm as SOE), they are following what other games have done, or PR folks are learning the same techniques (either in school or from whichever PR firm they come from).





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"..Rise of the Hutt Cartel continues your character's story....No class specific storylines, though I know you guys are going to love what RotHC has to offer."
Funny. I thought the implementation of the Cartel Store was the Rise of the Hutt Cartel. And no, I do not like what that story has to offer. I keep getting screwed in it.

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Tuscad
07.11.2012 , 07:32 PM | #294
Quote: Originally Posted by InnerPieces View Post
I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt LucasArts is putting any sort of input at all into network management or any of the other technical aspects of running an MMO. I think it is more likely LucasArts would concentrate solely on issues directly involving the Intellectual Property that is the Star Wars franchise.

I personally think it is more likely BioWare picked up some of the same people (or use the same PR firm as SOE), they are following what other games have done, or PR folks are learning the same techniques (either in school or from whichever PR firm they come from).





Disclaimer: This post is meant to be conversational and is in no way intended to be rude, mocking, or negative in any way toward any community member.
I agree with you about LucasArts not caring and being involved the more likely scenario, I thought it through even more after hitting submit. Didn't Dallas and James both work on galaxies? If so I would say that they picked up they same PR department too.

(You don't need to use a disclaimer with me, I know you don't mean anything rude. )
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ileriaone
07.11.2012 , 08:03 PM | #295
I am wondering how waiting to log in to play on a massively overcrowded server for 10 minutes is "improving my play experience"

all its going to do is improve the chances that I'll play something else.

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bnbuzzsaw
07.11.2012 , 08:14 PM | #296
My problem is I do not want to go to a full server, because I dont want crazy lag when im in the fleet or certain areas. I like being on a light pop server. But the only server I can transfer to is very heavy. Why is that?

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Luap
07.11.2012 , 08:28 PM | #297
Quote: Originally Posted by jaylmay View Post
listen people they gave the player base a choose to move. and sadly most people dead. if let say people didn't then they won't have marge them. But they did i know i look at my old server and it may have 4 ppl in fleet now. so hey sorry to those 4. if that number was like 100 it would have been safe but 4. really. server need to shut down. sorry. the mass es have voted by moving freely. the few is left behind. and force to do what the masses want. that life.
This made me laugh. EPIC post.
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Luap
07.11.2012 , 08:50 PM | #298
Quote: Originally Posted by HarleysRule View Post
I'm not suggesting they are rewarding people that already transferred, but they WOULD be rewarding people that aren't transferring by caving and making a new server and then transferring all the holdouts to the new server.

NO ONE wanted to lose names, .....
It is possible that merging the remaining servers into one light server could have been the plan all along. It would not be so much caving and rewarding holdouts as it would be making two different player types happy. The player base that wanted more populated servers were given an option to go to one place while the playerbase who stuck around were obviously happy with light population. Merging the remainder would keep them still on light and all would be happy. The problem is that they did not tell anyone if this was the plan and thus many people transferred thinking it was that or nothing.

Sure I would imagine that everyone would have rather kept thier names if given the choice but those who chose to move and lose them obviously found it to be less necessary than those who have not.
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Sunaness
07.11.2012 , 09:01 PM | #299
I'm on Kath Hound (RP). I run a very active guild full of folks who for one reason or another preferred to stay in their destination server. Some of those reasons are:
> Our names were taken and we were unwilling to change them, as some members played early in order to take their desired name. To a casual player, this might seem "silly", but as an MMO RPer, a name is an extremely important piece of game play. An identity that transcends the in-game display.
> "The more people per server the better?" Wrong. We purposefully chose a low pop server to be able to enjoy the game without having to battle for objectives, and to feel as if our role in the storyline is richer. Some members who have created alts on our destination server felt that the merging of three servers into one creates too much of a competition for easy objectives and makes spawn time a nightmare.
> The community. To be honest, too many people all chatting it up can flood the chat, too many people means an increase in negative dis-inhibition, leading to more rude crass members being snarky in the general chats and less friendly jabber.
> We aren't interested in PVP, a few times we've gotten enough people on to trigger a guild warzone as an event, and that's enough for us. We're here for the storyline and friendship.

We've been paying members from the beginning, have had to band together in order to maintain our dying server from becoming useless. We have designated crafters for item making so the market is never dead, we have 15+ people in the chat at any point so Heroics and mission groups are easy to make, and we're all familiar with one another and never come across behavioral problems.

And we get nothing for putting up with you correcting your mistakes and sacrificing our server? We have inconvenienced ourselves just as much as people who in reality did nothing, they got lucky and were on a destination server and accepted new players to their server. We've felt the consequences of deciding that our identities we paid for were more important than dealing with the drawbacks of funneling servers together in order to "fix" things. Does that seem right?

On top of that now you're literally bribing people off their destination servers? You're dealing the final blow to these already fragile origin servers even more. Let us have the opportunity to switch to a server of our choosing, one where we saved a backup name, have connections to the community, doesn't have a 30 minute wait time every evening. Don't bribe and pick and drag our poor server through the mud, letting us tell our members we're okay as long as we stick together while you plot ways to harass us until we're decimated. (We really don't appreciate the hourly Server Admin announcements. I think every one knows by now without literal harassment popping up across our screens every. hour. Put an end to it.). Don't take what little of a community you left us with without giving us more options.

We've obviously felt the need to stay on our origin servers for a reason. Forcing us to move to a server you deem fit for us is horrible, I feel cheated and lied to.
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dvldogjoe
07.11.2012 , 09:05 PM | #300
I transferd and was told that i would be getting a pet and some black hole commendations but haven't seen anything on the toons that i did transfer any idea on when they will be given?