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Why do so many players not buff themselves?

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Why do so many players not buff themselves?

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WitchKings
07.11.2012 , 07:31 AM | #41
I too did not realise how the buff thing worked when i started, this being my first MMO. I would click the buff in every fight, which was actually just turning it off and on, like the saber stance thing, i didnt realise that was a perm thing.


Now I have the 4 buff and buff everyone i see in sight, although there was this one guy on hoth who hated me for buffing him. I buffed him, then he sent me angry whispers saying i should never do that and he plays without buffs, then proceeded to run to the nearest mob to kill himself to get rid of the buffs. I just buffed him again when he respawned lol, that made him even more mad, but then i left him alone.


I guess some people just dont like them
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dandamanno
07.11.2012 , 07:58 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by WitchKings View Post
Now I have the 4 buff and buff everyone i see in sight, although there was this one guy on hoth who hated me for buffing him. I buffed him, then he sent me angry whispers saying i should never do that and he plays without buffs, then proceeded to run to the nearest mob to kill himself to get rid of the buffs. I just buffed him again when he respawned lol, that made him even more mad, but then i left him alone.


I guess some people just dont like them
In lotro I was doing some parsing on some mobs to try out different traits and see the dps difference. A Captain came along and buffed me in the middle of one of my fights. This obviously through off my results and I could not continue.

There are real reasons why people do not want buffs. Just sayin'.

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Dastrum
07.11.2012 , 08:01 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Fardarter View Post
I am a big ninja buffer. Especially in the low level zones I try and hit everyone I see with the 4 buff.
Me too. I feel better about myself when I do it. As for the OP's question, I do run into a lot of players that don't even have their own class buffs. I guess pressing the buff button is hard?

That's not counting the people that are probably just standing AFK of course...

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Anthonytats
07.11.2012 , 09:47 AM | #44
I have to say, i dont know where people are coming from about how "Buffs dont make a difference till higher levels anyway"

The reason i dont have buffs on my new jedi guardian is this.
When i started playing the game as a Inquis/Trooper i found the first few levels (Admittedly this was back in december) a tiny bit hard and having to team up to take down gold mobs.

Now that ive started a Guardian which has the only buff i didnt have (So i now get all 4) ive noticed a massive difference from start.
Literally, started, went to flesh raiders. Buffed, ran in. 1 hit kill, 1 hit kill, 1 hit kill...
Which i know isnt much different to what happens with no buffs but it was when i got to the point where i had to kill that dark side guy that pretends to be a sith etc.
I was level 4. He was a level 5 silver. 1 Hit kill. ***?

And this was with just basic gear id found from killing flesh raiders for 10 minutes.
5 minutes later i was level 5 vs a level 5 gold. 3 hit kill.

So now i dont buff.
It just makes the game more difficult.
Ive now reached Coruscant with my first companion and my buffs make it a walk in the park...
The only time i buff is when im in FPs and thats mainly to help new players/those without the buffs i can give.

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Ashivauto
07.11.2012 , 10:08 AM | #45
i dont mind if other players dont buff me if im not grouped with them but i do hate more than anything going into a warzone and new lvl 50's not buffing the group- it irks me to death
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Zelekar
07.11.2012 , 10:24 AM | #46
For those who seem to forget to buff themselves I have made a habit of buffing after every fight. Hope this helps.

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SlimsPicken
07.11.2012 , 10:37 AM | #47
I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of BUFFS; skills I have acquired over a very long career. BUFFS that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will BUFF you.
For every man there is a sentence, a string of words, which has the power to destroy him.

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GnatB
07.11.2012 , 10:44 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Zelekar View Post
For those who seem to forget to buff themselves I have made a habit of buffing after every fight. Hope this helps.
Heh, I got in the habit of using it to dismount my speeder.

Quote: Originally Posted by WitchKings View Post
I buffed him, then he sent me angry whispers saying i should never do that and he plays without buffs, then proceeded to run to the nearest mob to kill himself to get rid of the buffs
This strikes me as particularly amusing, since in every MMO I've ever played, you can just right click buffs to cancel them, if you really want to. And last I checked it works that way in SWTOR too.

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Tewnam
07.11.2012 , 10:49 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by dandamanno View Post
Why do we even have these buffs again? If everyone gets them at level one, there are no restrictions on their use, the content is clearly either unaffected or tailored for them to be there, then why do we even have them?

Why are they not just permanent buffs that are added to your stats? Why not just eliminate them altogether? It's pretty clear that these are just added in to make you "feel" more powerful, when in thruth they actually do nothing than at best put you on par with the stats the devs are expecting.

The only use for them currently is the level 50 unlock that let's you have them all. But again, at 1 buff needed per hour why not just add them to your stats without the button push.

I kinda feel the same about the "recouperate/introspection/etc.." after battle button. Why not just make it automatic out of combat? Clearly has nothing to do with skill. I think GW2 is like this and it's nice.

Make combat challenging. Make content challenging. Drop the silly, pointless out of combat button presses.
Long term buffs are a design to make characters more powerful when grouped. Without the legacy perk, you only have your own buff, but when running around with other people, you are stronger. Sure, there are other ways to accomplish this, such as passive group auras, but buffs are commonly understood and have been around a long time.

The out-of-combat heal, while yes it could be automatic, still requires that you remain still and channel for a few moments so that you're not just instantly healed the moment combat ends. This avoids scenarios where, most notably in PvP where combat is not maintained by NPCs, a character could break combat by kiting and just passively heal to full very easily.

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Skorz
07.11.2012 , 11:19 AM | #50
Not only buffing but I've seen a lot of people not using the out of combat heal.