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Why all the negativity?


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Sarfux
07.10.2012 , 03:15 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by EduardoJN View Post
Well, after some time playing swtor it became clear to me that the game, despite some great news that it introduced in the MMO genre (like the voice acting) is only trying to be a bad copy of World of Warcraft, so far.

And the worst part to me: still looks like an incomplete MMO game, after 6 months and 2 big patches.

I dare to say that maybe some risks should had been taken when developing this game ...i mean, trying to go into a new direction, instead of just staying with the old and rusty MMO kind of gameplay that we have already seen in other games (or maybe i should say "since Everquest" ?).

I guess if u dont take some risks, there are no big rewards, and your game becomes just a "regular" game.

Six months later and only now we get transfers and LFG tool (Or should i say "LOOK FOR NOOB" tool? Please, Bioware...its lame as it is and needs polishing...fast).

Thats simply not acceptable when u try to make your customer pay $15 per month to play a game that should be at least as complete as any MMO out there.

This is not a new genre...its not something that the industry is learning just now how to do.

U dont make a new MMO with missing parts...do you make cars with no weels and ask your customer to wait for them for 6 months?

U dont wait for the comunity to "ask" you to please give them transfers and a LFG tool...this is something that we expect to see since launch day.

At least the leveling on this game was awesome (side quests, main storyline), the sound, the music and the voice acting were excelent, and for that, i salute you Bioware for an amazing job.

But the rest is nothing new in the MMO world....its just a copy of things that have already been seen in other games, and this doesnt help SWTOR in becoming an atractive new game.

When u hit 50, your fun with the game takes such an epic turn down that it is hard to believe u were playing the same game at lvl 49.

When u hit 50 the pvp seems less balanced than before (10-49 bracket), u have to grind like crazy to have a minimal chance of having fun againts the "Deus Ex Augmented ppl" or you will be steamrolled at the warzones.

I honestly miss the balance in the 10-49 bracket.

Things also seems extremely expensive and repetitive..

Why do you have to pay a small fortune to rip your armor/weapons mods off?

Is that the price of feeling unique in this game? To have an unique look? Tons of money?

As for the legacy system: Why do you have to pay millions of credits for something that your legacy should give u, as a reward for leveling it?

On the PVE: u have to repeat the same 3 ops (EV, KP and Denova) and the same flashpoints over and over and over and over and over and over again with your friends/pugs just to.........farm gear....and play them over and over and over and over again.

If anyone is having fun doing this, congratulations, but i have to confess im not....not anymore.

I have enjoyed this game for 6 months, mostly i think because i had the patience to make many alts and see all their awesome main storylines.

If i knew the game was gonna be like this (an incomplete and poor copy of other MMO´s), i would have stayed with the KOTOR 3 idea instead of an MMO game about the Old Republic.

I wish good luck to the ppl at Bioware, and to the ppl that love this game.

I really hope BW turn this game into an excelent MMO, my best wishes for u.

if you´re still having fun with the game, enjoy it!

Thats whats most important about a game: having fun.

So dont mind me, this is just my opinion and the reasons why i will not be staying in the game once my sub runs out.

I see u guys around.
Why did you use a new paragraph sentence for each of your statements? I never got that...it makes it hard to read
Always be who you are, not what the galaxy wants you to be

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Goretzu
07.10.2012 , 03:18 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Tarplee View Post
Looking through these replies and im liking what i see, theres no OTT hate just ideas flowing. Ive gathered that its the lack of multiplayer content thats causing the frustration as well a the jagged feel of combat,, its conversations and the feeling of a community pooling ideas in one big constructive conversation, holds more ideas and more read appeal to the developers than ranting and moaning and shouting every 5 seconds, cos lets face it, what proud developer wants to read a hate post?
There've been an awful lot of very constructive threads over the last 6 months, some they have acted upon very well (UI for example was bad a launch, but imeasurably improved now, with little left to complain about - most complaints would be down to things mirroring more traditional addons - like gear swapping).

Unfortunately for all those the vast majority have fallen on deaf ears.... as least seemingly so as there is very little feedback. Now there's probably many reasons for this, not least that some idea would take a vast amount of development time, but still...... SWTOR has done a decent job of patching, but compared to say Trion (Rift) not so much.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Dastrum
07.10.2012 , 03:23 PM | #43
So yeah, The Secret World just launched and here's a nice thread someone started in their General forum:

http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?t=42277

So to recap, TSW {which literally just launched) is dying and everybody knows SWTOR failed.

Can't argue with that logic.

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EduardoJN
07.10.2012 , 03:23 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
Why did you use a new paragraph sentence for each of your statements? I never got that...it makes it hard to read
Walltext is worse.

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Haseen
07.10.2012 , 03:39 PM | #45
Unfortunately complaining is the best way to get the game fixed. If everyone came here saying it was perfect nothing would get done and no money would be invested in fixing it. Small bugs are ok for a new game, but there are glitches in SWTOR that make this game unplayable at times. They released the game too early and now they are trying to catch up. unfortunately their subscription numbers are dropping so now they are concentrating on content instead of fixing the game itself... /sigh

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Zeppelin
07.10.2012 , 03:41 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Lamatra View Post
The majority of the people playing this game have no idea, what it takes to create a game of this size.
Therefor they take everything for granted, especially people moving from WoW which have had seven years of optimization.
I curently think the game is improving. With free server transfer, we now have decent populated servers, and LFG is a nice feature. Hopefully PvP will continue to improve along with the rest of the content in the game.
Actually, I know exactly what it takes to create a game this size, and Bioware is terrible at it.
Size matters not!

The first rule about Jar Jar is we don't talk about Jar Jar.

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Jett-Rinn
07.10.2012 , 04:07 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Zeppelin View Post
Actually, I know exactly what it takes to create a game this size, and Bioware is terrible at it.
Yet still you pay them.....

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FeelFlow
07.10.2012 , 05:07 PM | #48
Hey OP - you're new to MMO forums, aren't you?

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Goretzu
07.11.2012 , 03:21 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Haseen View Post
Unfortunately complaining is the best way to get the game fixed. If everyone came here saying it was perfect nothing would get done and no money would be invested in fixing it. Small bugs are ok for a new game, but there are glitches in SWTOR that make this game unplayable at times. They released the game too early and now they are trying to catch up. unfortunately their subscription numbers are dropping so now they are concentrating on content instead of fixing the game itself... /sigh
It is a bit of a no win situation for them in that sense.

The have 1 budget and X developers, but need to do a lot more.

Unfortunately unless EA lets them hire more I guess the numbers just don't add up.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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hages
07.11.2012 , 07:20 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Celebrus View Post
People would be much more forgiving and willing to be patient if we were actually seeing progress. As it is, we aren't, and the progress that we do see is so slow in coming that by the time it gets to us it has become old news.

While rome wasn't built in a day, I'm going to add to that phrase that it also wasn't left to stagnate for 7 months with little to no improvements. I would be much more forgiving of the developers of this game if over the course of the last 7 months I had seen steady forward progress rather than sideways baby steps.

Some interesting mini games.

Improvements to world pvp.

Actually making crew skills relevant rather than routinely buffing and then nerfing the benefits of them(augments removed from slicing, crit crafted gear made obsolete, etc.)

More engaging activities to keep us busy that don't involve grinding the three daily hubs every single day.

They need to get busy making the game better instead of milking the Star Wars IP for all that it's worth.
I do not understand why u are saying that there is no progres on this game. To me it seems they are really working on it and giving us what we need .The game has inproved much in my eyes.
Open world pvp, that is not something global.Some people would love to have it,some do not care. It is all about what some people want and some do not. they can not posible make this every person dream mmo.
nothings as good as an cold cold beer...and swtor to play drunk