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Why all the negativity?


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Tarplee
07.10.2012 , 01:58 PM | #31
Looking through these replies and im liking what i see, theres no OTT hate just ideas flowing. Ive gathered that its the lack of multiplayer content thats causing the frustration as well a the jagged feel of combat,, its conversations and the feeling of a community pooling ideas in one big constructive conversation, holds more ideas and more read appeal to the developers than ranting and moaning and shouting every 5 seconds, cos lets face it, what proud developer wants to read a hate post?
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G_Vega
07.10.2012 , 02:08 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Tarplee View Post
i agree that TOR comes short on a lot and there som many more elements i wanna see added, but shouting it as hate to the developers isnt the way you get through, cos they aint gonna read moans and groans, there gonna read the polite positive Ideas
Nope, they don't read those either.
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Darzil
07.10.2012 , 02:17 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Tarplee View Post
Ive been on this forume for about 25 minutes now, and already im seeing moans and groans about SWTOR. Why?
Because generally, those posting on the forums aren't those currently in game playing and enjoying it, those people are instead in game ! Speaking of which, time to log in !

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Shonuff
07.10.2012 , 02:24 PM | #34
Well to me they just sound like spoiled brats. They remind me of a toddler that jumps up and down, stomps his feet till he gets what he wants, as soon as he gets it he shuts up, then repeats the process again when he wants something else.

its the same thing here. "Fix this or I quit!" And rather than just leave peacfully, they whine like a baby and it is so obnoxious. The problem is the developers take a very long time to get these things out and fix problems, its not liike they can just snap their fingers and make it happen.

Developers should always take off about 25% of their actual subscriber base because that is about the same percent of people who will leave in a few months after release. I have complained too but it was mostly about the Servers ( I was miserable) Moving to a bigger server was so awsome. yeah its crowded, people ninja your objectives, but it is a lot faster than when I had to solo Heroics by myself. That was a pain.

Comic Con is here, we are gonna get some big announcments soon, people just need to chill and look forward to the good stuff.

And one last thing, these guys need to stop crying each time a major member of the team leaves Bioware or something, that is just life, it happens. It does'nt mean anything, the game will go on without him/her.
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Tricky-Ha
07.10.2012 , 02:56 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Beejimus View Post
I can care less how long it took for WoW to do anything. This game isn't WoW. But since WoW keeps getting brought up, THIS game had the benefit of learning from all of WoW's mistakes and successes before the game was even made and therefore had a point of reference (which seems to have been utterly ignored by the dev's.)
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DarthOvertone
07.10.2012 , 03:00 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Tarplee View Post
Ive been on this forume for about 25 minutes now, and already im seeing moans and groans about SWTOR. Why?
You must be reading different threads than I'm seeing because the general sentiment on these Forums since 1.3 has been upbeat and good for the most part. Sure peeps complain, but that just goes with the Forum territory.

Thankfully, the negativity is nowhere near what it was before server transfers, especially on the PvP Forums where Trolls dwell in abundance. The community has been in pretty good spirits as far as I can tell.
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Celebrus
07.10.2012 , 03:08 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Tarplee View Post
i joined this cos i love star wars and i saw its incredible potential, SWTOR doesnt need to be compared to WoW every second, give it a break
And that is exactly what they are depending upon right now.

They are dependent upon the fact that SWToR is Star Wars in name. You joined because you love Star Wars and you haven't left because you love Star Wars, your situation is not uncommon. The only reason that *a lot* of people even touched this game was the Star Wars IP and as I've said, they need to start making a good game instead of milking the IP.

You don't want people to compare this to wow, yet you insist on regularly stating that it took them years to get WoW to be as good as it is, this seems like a double standard to me, but once again, not uncommon around here.

Without the Star Wars name, this game wouldn't be the struggling MMO hanging on by a thread that it is today, it wouldn't be known as Tortanic, it would be just another F2P MMO on a long list of unmemorable F2P MMOs. The best thing this game has going for it is it's name.

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EduardoJN
07.10.2012 , 03:11 PM | #38
Well, after some time playing swtor it became clear to me that the game, despite some great news that it introduced in the MMO genre (like the voice acting) is only trying to be a bad copy of World of Warcraft, so far.

And the worst part to me: still looks like an incomplete MMO game, after 6 months and 2 big patches.

I dare to say that maybe some risks should had been taken when developing this game ...i mean, trying to go into a new direction, instead of just staying with the old and rusty MMO kind of gameplay that we have already seen in other games (or maybe i should say "since Everquest" ?).

I guess if u dont take some risks, there are no big rewards, and your game becomes just a "regular" game.

Six months later and only now we get transfers and LFG tool (Or should i say "LOOK FOR NOOB" tool? Please, Bioware...its lame as it is and needs polishing...fast).

Thats simply not acceptable when u try to make your customer pay $15 per month to play a game that should be at least as complete as any MMO out there.

This is not a new genre...its not something that the industry is learning just now how to do.

U dont make a new MMO with missing parts...do you make cars with no weels and ask your customer to wait for them for 6 months?

U dont wait for the comunity to "ask" you to please give them transfers and a LFG tool...this is something that we expect to see since launch day.

At least the leveling on this game was awesome (side quests, main storyline), the sound, the music and the voice acting were excelent, and for that, i salute you Bioware for an amazing job.

But the rest is nothing new in the MMO world....its just a copy of things that have already been seen in other games, and this doesnt help SWTOR in becoming an atractive new game.

When u hit 50, your fun with the game takes such an epic turn down that it is hard to believe u were playing the same game at lvl 49.

When u hit 50 the pvp seems less balanced than before (10-49 bracket), u have to grind like crazy to have a minimal chance of having fun againts the "Deus Ex Augmented ppl" or you will be steamrolled at the warzones.

I honestly miss the balance in the 10-49 bracket.

Things also seems extremely expensive and repetitive..

Why do you have to pay a small fortune to rip your armor/weapons mods off?

Is that the price of feeling unique in this game? To have an unique look? Tons of money?

As for the legacy system: Why do you have to pay millions of credits for something that your legacy should give u, as a reward for leveling it?

On the PVE: u have to repeat the same 3 ops (EV, KP and Denova) and the same flashpoints over and over and over and over and over and over again with your friends/pugs just to.........farm gear....and play them over and over and over and over again.

If anyone is having fun doing this, congratulations, but i have to confess im not....not anymore.

I have enjoyed this game for 6 months, mostly i think because i had the patience to make many alts and see all their awesome main storylines.

If i knew the game was gonna be like this (an incomplete and poor copy of other MMO´s), i would have stayed with the KOTOR 3 idea instead of an MMO game about the Old Republic.

I wish good luck to the ppl at Bioware, and to the ppl that love this game.

I really hope BW turn this game into an excelent MMO, my best wishes for u.

if you´re still having fun with the game, enjoy it!

Thats whats most important about a game: having fun.

So dont mind me, this is just my opinion and the reasons why i will not be staying in the game once my sub runs out.

I see u guys around.

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Maccha
07.10.2012 , 03:11 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by darthwaaagh View Post
Also the reason is people that do nothing but complain are most always the most vocal in public.
This, plus the people who are enjoying the game are mostly playing (except during server maintenance)> I suggest avoiding general chat and going to more specific categories. General chat is the same on most MMO's, whiners and complainers, who are also the minority of the population.

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Sarfux
07.10.2012 , 03:14 PM | #40
You must understand something. When something is gaining popularity, and getting better, especially in the mmo world, there will be a lot of players for SOME reason they will ....hate the game. No matter what. They will despise anything and everything in it or surrounding it. Some don't even play the game but still complain on how much they despise it just because.....they do. There is something in their head that makes them HOPE this game fails and dies a complete death where they shut the game down because they didn't want it in the first place, but because its Star Wars they are playing it.

There are those that will bash this game no matter what. Their mentality is negative and will do whatever it takes to make sure this game doesn't see the light of day. The haters of TOR feel like its their "duty" somehow to keep people away and go on to the next thing because THEY didn't like it. They think they are the only ones with an opinion and tell people that the game sucks and keep bashing it when someone brings the game up. TOR is just the thing to bash right now. It will be the thing to bash for a while. Because it's the popular mmo right now. All things that are great are bashed upon. It doesn't mean they are bad.

Then there are those who get "off" somehow on ruining other players' experiences by pointing out every single flaw in the game ever. They will keep on paying for the game JUST to hate it and not really play it that much, just so they can come on the forums and stir up problems. People who hate the game and stay here LOVE drama. LOVE it! Even if something never ever happened in the game, they will make a post about ...something....just so they can have attention. Attention cravers are the worst. But if you are a attention craver AND a hater staying here? thats mental....and get out, save yourself the trouble.
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