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I'm legacy level 30 - why do I have to pay millions of credits to unlock stuff?

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I'm legacy level 30 - why do I have to pay millions of credits to unlock stuff?

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WrecklessMEDIC
07.09.2012 , 02:19 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Diktat View Post
Money sink, that's why.
Besides that Legacy is an epic fail of no use for anything so far. I don't know if this is going to change in the future but actually is pretty useless.
I don't know, I find the Legacy System pretty fun and useful for my alts. That's just me though.

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dagrouch
07.09.2012 , 03:02 PM | #42
Agreed. You figured anyone at legacy level 30 could afford this. WRONG. Unless you are playing the GTN game or grinding boring dailies, you are actually out playing and enjoying the MAIN POINTS of the game (HM's/operations/pvp/leveing alts,etc)

Do they really require me to go to the Black Hole 30x in a week so i can get all these bonuses for my toons?

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timmyw
07.09.2012 , 04:09 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by CelCawdro View Post
You cannot design cash sinks successfully around the top 0.1%.
^This.

The overwhelming majority of players in the game do not have 1 million credits, or anywhere near that number. This is coming from BW themselves. So why cater to the people that do? Wouldn't you want to go about it in exactly the opposite fashion to keep your subscribers happy if for nothing else?

The legacy system is a massive disappointment for me. As it seems you are forced to grind TWICE for unlocks. I hate to say it but the unlocks aren't that great either. And that's being nice.

I decided to get into it and at least try. I even bought a head piece that was orange for an alt from the legacy vendor. Then... I went to Nar Shadaa and the very first quest you do there gives you an orange head piece with the exact same model as the one you just bought for 150k. Those Legacy vendors should be taken out of the game, they are that useless. That kind of thing down right annoys me.

I'm sorry guys but the legacy system as it stands just sucks. Why should we grind our way to level 50 legacy just to get the right to pay over immense amounts of credits for stuff that really don't reflect the expenditure?

Also, I don't see the point in just bringing out more alt based legacy bonuses. There needs to be some top end stuff brought in, and really it needs to reward the time you already spent, not ask you to pay 5 million credits for a mount that goes the same speed as all the others for example. 5 million credits most people don't have remember.

If anything is going to kill this game, it is the developers not being in touch with the community or even their own game.

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aeterno
07.09.2012 , 04:26 PM | #44
The entire legacy system is a massive letdown for me. I expected an added avenue of char progression (a legacy point every level or two or something allong those lines and a "skill tree"), even if only in the fluff/conveniance direction. But this MT store placeholder is just *meh* through and through.

I remember being excited about dinging legacy lvl 10, back when I figured it might mean something. Now I'm 45 and I've turned the xp bar off. I have no idea why BW bothered with it, it means nothing. At this stage its just a "no-life meter" screaming at you to stop playing.

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Synxos
07.09.2012 , 04:28 PM | #45
Seriously OP....I agree a lot.
Based on their wording, I expected the character perks to be unlocked for all my characters when I reached a certain legacy level.....I've scored extremely high on reading comprehension exams, they did imply that it would be unlocked free of charge when you reached that legacy level.


they went from there was very little to spend credits on, to you can only buy things if you have an insane amount of credits.

Plus there's the whole "story" behind the legacy system.
Your other characters get better because they are related to a higher level person. The "genetic" traits are passed down. Where do credits come into the roleplaying picture?

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Synxos
07.09.2012 , 04:29 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by dagrouch View Post
Agreed. You figured anyone at legacy level 30 could afford this. WRONG. Unless you are playing the GTN game or grinding boring dailies, you are actually out playing and enjoying the MAIN POINTS of the game (HM's/operations/pvp/leveing alts,etc)

Do they really require me to go to the Black Hole 30x in a week so i can get all these bonuses for my toons?
yep, you have to do dailies nonstop, to earn enough credits for a character, who you can't play because you're grinding credits nonstop.
GG BW!

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Hyde_v
07.09.2012 , 04:33 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by dagrouch View Post
Agreed. You figured anyone at legacy level 30 could afford this. WRONG. Unless you are playing the GTN game or grinding boring dailies, you are actually out playing and enjoying the MAIN POINTS of the game (HM's/operations/pvp/leveing alts,etc)

Do they really require me to go to the Black Hole 30x in a week so i can get all these bonuses for my toons?
Hmmm.

While talking about some of the very, very high GTN prices I was seeing on my server, I was told by several people that people towards max level have a lot of credits simply because they do not have anything to spend the credits on. Run a few FPs, WZs, dailies and other quests, sell your trash, and the credits really start to stack up. Makes sense. If you have bought your pets, social items, gear augments, etc, what else are you spending your credits on?

My interpretation of the Legacy unlocks is that they are EXTRA. You do NOT have to have them to play the game.

When I see people complaining about Legacy costs, two points come to mind. First, yes, they are a little expensive. But since they are not mandatory, I am not that worried about them. Second, people do not want to play the game. "Oh, this is too hard." "I don't want to run dailies to earn money to pay for stuff." So, what? You do not want to play the game? Try this theory on for size: Legacy prices drop significantly. Within a month, you buy all the unlocks, pets, items, etc. that you want. Now, you don't want or need anything. New FPs are not coming out for another few months. You've maxed out commendations and have nothing left to buy by running WZs. You've done it all. What will you do? You might quit and that means Bioware loses revenue until you start paying again (if you do come back.) If enough players do this, the company starts making allowances to entice people back. They go free to play, or other bonuses. Now people complain that the game is too easy, blah, blah, blah.

See what I'm saying?

Run your dailies, sell the occasional prototype item that drops on the GTN, buy your Legacy items. That's all part of playing the game which is what you are supposed to do.
"And they probably redesigned the whole sickbay too. I know engineers. They love to change things." -Dr. McCoy, ST:TMP

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Muskaan
07.09.2012 , 04:33 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Synxos View Post
yep, you have to do dailies nonstop, to earn enough credits for a character, who you can't play because you're grinding credits nonstop.
GG BW!
QFT.

That's the annoying part. The time I have to spend grinding money on my main so that I can buy legacy on my alt, is better spent on actually leveling the alt in the first place.
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Bossa_Nova
07.09.2012 , 04:35 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Diktat View Post
Money sink, that's why.
Besides that Legacy is an epic fail of no use for anything so far. I don't know if this is going to change in the future but actually is pretty useless.
As it stands right now I agree, the legacy system is a complete failure. If unlocks were based only on legacy level it would be a great incentive. Instead of encouraging the use of alts, the legacy system encourage grinding one character to be able to afford a perk for your alt. Personally, I've stopped playing everything but my inquisitor, and I absolutely do not buy anything with him because I'm trying to earn enough for the Chiss unlock. I get the feeling that I'm going to burn out before I get there.

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flyersfan
07.09.2012 , 05:12 PM | #50
I feel like your legacy level should award you with some kind of legacy tokens or points similar to the skill trees. You can accumulate and save those points to spend on legacy perks, all of which would be legacy-wide. I find this character-specific perk setup to be counter-intuitive to the whole "legacy" idea. I don't think that credits should ever be involved in the situation.
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